Episode 78

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00:00:06Melissa Erbacher: Welcome to Episode 78 of the parkrun Adventurers. I'm Mel, I'm joined by my co-host Scotty.

00:00:14Scott Trickett: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening Mel.

00:00:18Melissa Erbacher: How you doing?

00:00:19Scott Trickett: Fantastic as always.

00:00:20Melissa Erbacher: That's good to hear. It's been a bit of a big week. What have you been up to?

00:00:26Scott Trickett: Well, parkrun-wise, very busy again. We touched on it last week. Medibank launched free and active. But let's get to you first because I think you're the focus this week because we want to find out what happened on Sunday.

00:00:44Melissa Erbacher: Ah, the Sunshine Coast Marathon. Yes. And our little campaign to get Adam costumed up.

00:00:52Scott Trickett: Yep. Now, I know the end result because I've seen photographic evidence. But for our listeners who haven't, how did we go? Did we get, did Adam man up?

00:01:04Melissa Erbacher: We had some success. We did, yes. And he did indeed wear the costume that I made for him. I kind of, after the initial, you know, people tagging him and saying, man up, wear the costume, I kind of, didn't mention it again because he, at that stage, was still adamant that no, it wasn't going to happen. But ironically, possibly not ironically, I also went to the Run Nation Running Film Festival last week. And at the film festival, I bumped into the event organizers for the Sunny Coast Marathon. And their names are Jason and Lisa. And Adam was actually... he works as a videographer and he makes films and things like that and he was hired by them to do some drone footage of the event on Sunday and because he had been in discussions with Jason about that, I sort of also mentioned to Jason that I was trying to convince him to come dressed up on Sunday and told him that we were registered for the 2K event and it was at that point that Jason said, oh, that sounds great and Adam said, I think, kind of thought, okay. He said, yeah, I may or may not. And then I didn't mention it again until I made this costume on Saturday. And I just made it. And I had it hanging up. And he came home from work. And I said, okay, well, I'm going to need you to try that on so I can make sure it fits. Just assuming that it would all be good. And he didn't say anything. But he tried it on later on in the evening. So I think he had resigned at that point.

00:02:49Scott Trickett: So what you're telling me is Adam got to go to work dressed in fancy dress.

00:02:55Melissa Erbacher: Not exactly. The 2K event, the family fun run, which we did with Wes, is the last event of the day. It starts at 11 o'clock. And, you know, all the marathon runners had been going since 6 o'clock in the morning, but there were still some of them out there. And there were a couple of, I think, 10K event people still out there because they started at 10 o'clock. but he had filmed all day and then was pretty much finished by about 10.30, I think. So he waited until the last possible second, literally. We were cheering with our friends at the parkrun tent, which was about 500 metres away from the start line, and he would not put his costume on. He's like, how about, We just carry it to the start line and I'll put it on there. So he was still, I'm not sure if he was embarrassed or he was being a showman and just wanted to surprise everybody by not letting them see it until he was out on the course and they were cheering for him.

00:04:04Scott Trickett: Well, I mean, I know Adam and he's all showmen. So I think that's what he was doing. So can we share a photo of this with our listeners so they know what we're talking about?

00:04:15Melissa Erbacher: We can, definitely.

00:04:17Scott Trickett: So look on our Facebook page and this will all make sense.

00:04:21Melissa Erbacher: It will. But you've seen the pictures. Would you agree Wes was just the cutest ever?

00:04:27Scott Trickett: Yes.

00:04:29Melissa Erbacher: We got a lot of glee and a lot of... A lot of comments about how cute he was while we were out there on the course. And people cheered him really well as well. It was great having the parkrun tent there because they were all very excited to see him.

00:04:44Scott Trickett: He's a good-looking kid. I hope he hasn't peaked too early because he's got a long way to go. I'm confident that he hasn't, but he's definitely a good-looking kid, which is no surprise.

00:04:57Melissa Erbacher: He can pull off a costume with the best of them. Yeah.

00:05:01Scott Trickett: Now, the run itself, we've got our old mate Ian Hay coming up on the show today. He was there on Sunday, so maybe let's save a bit of that for Ian. A bit of talk about the actual run itself when we chat to Ian.

00:05:16Melissa Erbacher: Good plan. But so let's head back to what you were up to on Saturday with the Brimbank launch. How did that all go? You don't often attend a launch.

00:05:25Scott Trickett: No, I don't. Or do I? I'm not sure anymore.

00:05:29Melissa Erbacher: More often than not lately.

00:05:32Scott Trickett: Yeah, Brimbank was a little bit special. We launched the free and active initiative from Medibank. And under that, as we spoke about last week, Medibank are going to launch 40 new parkruns. And so we made a bit of a fuss about the first one. Because this is a big deal for Medibank and I think it's perfectly justifiable to go a bit over the top and get a bit of media coverage, which we did. We had the TV crews there. Did you see us on TV?

00:06:00Melissa Erbacher: I think we might have discussed that I don't actually watch TV, like not normal TV. So no, sorry. I'm not a morning show type person.

00:06:10Scott Trickett: And the thing is, you were at parkrun as well.

00:06:11Melissa Erbacher: And I was at parkrun. No, actually I wasn't at parkrun. I was sick on Saturday. I didn't go to parkrun.

00:06:19Scott Trickett: Oh. But please continue. Okay, well, yeah, the Brinbank launch went really well. I mean, Brinbank, it's one of these parks, a Parks Vic park, so a state park, really pretty. And a lot of Melbournians and Victorians and anyone would be surprised that this beautiful park sits where it sits in Melbourne. You wouldn't know it's there. And it's a funny old drive-in. You get off the freeway and you almost have to drive 2km into the park on this road to actually get down to the cafe and meeting point of where the parkrun is. But once you're there, gorgeous, gorgeous park. We've got river crossings. Bridges? Well, there's a bridge. There's like literally a bridge. But these are like river crossings. So when it rains, we're in a bit of trouble. Because you are literally running at water level across these cobblestone pathway that's at water level. And we did have a bit of rain about over the weekend, so we were a bit nervous. Because the alternative course is not as pretty.

00:07:27Melissa Erbacher: But they still have a plan B. Yeah, we've always got a plan B.

00:07:31Scott Trickett: But the plan A course is really a treat to run on. It's got a bit of a hill. or Brimbank Park. It's probably got the toughest hill I've run at parkrun. I reckon Hamilton Island, that hill that you do there twice, is pretty tough. But Brimbank is really sharp and steep.

00:07:51Melissa Erbacher: And it trumps Westerfolds.

00:07:54Scott Trickett: Oh, smashes Westerfolds. Westerfolds is gentle. It really is.

00:07:59Melissa Erbacher: But it just keeps going on at Westerfolds.

00:08:02Scott Trickett: It's a little bit longer, whereas Brimbank is short and sharp. Yeah, the The downhill is a bit longer, a bit more gradual. And you get some fantastic views at the top of that hill. And I actually ran it on Thursday midweek last week as a bit of a freedom run. And a plane was landing. So the other thing is Brimbank is quite close to the airport. And a plane was landing at the same time as I was getting up to the top of the hill. So it was literally, it felt like it was landing on top of my head. Combine that with the view of the park and it's an experience. I encourage all people to visit Brimbank parkrun if they're coming to Melbourne. Fabulous. Yeah, and the morning was a great success. As I said, sunrise were there, so that was a bit exciting. We don't often have a live breakfast, news, TV show, whatever it is, attend a parkrun launch.

00:09:01Melissa Erbacher: No, that would have been great exposure for parkruns.

00:09:04Scott Trickett: Yeah, I think so. And the other thing is I actually wasn't going to run. So because it was a big launch, I was helping out. I was doing my volunteering duties. But it dawned pretty quickly after we set everybody off that I wasn't really needed. So I got itchy feet and I had to run.

00:09:22Melissa Erbacher: Okay.

00:09:23Scott Trickett: So I got another event up on you, Mel.

00:09:27Melissa Erbacher: You've got a lead by like two now, don't you? No, I think it's one. I think it's just one.

00:09:32Scott Trickett: We'd have to check.

00:09:32Melissa Erbacher: What? No, because Varsity was one. Was it? Yeah. I will have to have another look. We'll have to get Mark Connolly to update the chart. That would be good. The graph. Because I can't keep up. I'm going to obviously have to get out on another adventure sometime soon.

00:09:56Scott Trickett: So that was my launch. I want to go back to you went to the Run Nation Film Festival.

00:10:02Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, wow, we're all over the shop this week, aren't we?

00:10:06Scott Trickett: Tell us about that.

00:10:07Melissa Erbacher: That was great. It's the first time they screened on the Sunshine Coast. As when we had Keith Hong on the podcast earlier in the year, he at that stage hadn't necessarily locked in a date for Sunshine Coast or wasn't sure it was going to happen, but it did. And very lucky to have it come up to a regional area such as we are. And yeah, no, it was great. There were seven short films as part of the program. that went for just a little over two hours and some were inspirational, some were – well, they were all effectively doco-style things except for one which was a silent film, I guess you could call it. It had music but it didn't have any dialogue. Yeah, it was really good. I don't want to give away a lot of stuff because I know you'll be heading to the Melbourne version in October and it's all the same films. So I don't really want to talk too much about the films that were included. Obviously, we already know Christina Palton's film was included, who we had on the show earlier in the year. But yeah, you'll enjoy it. It's really good and I would highly recommend to anyone who's got the Run Nation running film festival coming to a location near you to definitely buy tickets and support the film festival because it was a great night and we need to support these things so they keep coming again.

00:11:40Scott Trickett: We do. You're right. I am looking forward to October when it comes to town down here. Good-o. Shall we crack on? I think Ian's itching to give us some stats. We haven't had him on for a while.

00:11:53Melissa Erbacher: We haven't, and we have some burning questions that we have stuff come up from podcasts past to ask him. So let's get on with that. We always say it's been far too long, but it's always true because we always leave it far too long between having our next guest on the show. You know him as Mr. Facts in Haystack. Ian, hey, welcome back to the parkrun Adventurers.

Facts in a Haystack

00:12:23Ian Hay: Hey guys, it's good to be back. It does go way too fast time, doesn't it?

00:12:29Melissa Erbacher: It does. It just slips away. Fortunately, we have been writing down, or I have been writing down, so we didn't forget what we said. in previous episodes some things that we have chatted about that we wanted to know the answers to and you are the perfect person to tell us the answers. Now I gave you some of those questions a little bit earlier in the week and you got some answers for me, is that correct?

00:12:54Ian Hay: I do and I also grabbed a few little bit of extra ones just as motivation from those ones, yep.

00:13:00Melissa Erbacher: Awesome, I love some surprises. Let's start with the first question that we had, which had to do with 59.59s. Do you remember what that was?

00:13:11Ian Hay: I do remember the 59s. So how many 59.59s, so how many basically stopwatch failures have we had at the parkrun or basically just technical glitches that we've had to drop back to 59.59 for the entire event? Yes. So fortunately, I'm happy to report we've only got 0.3% of events reported ever in Australia that have ever had to go to 59.59. So that's a very tiny percentage.

00:13:36Melissa Erbacher: Wow. I'm going to throw just a random one in here. How many events have we had in the history of parkrun Australia so far?

00:13:45Ian Hay: 28,817. That's way too many, but I did double check the figures and it's right there inside. It feels very high.

00:13:56Melissa Erbacher: Well, we've got a lot of events that we put on every week now, so I guess it only takes a month for us to add an extra thousand to that.

00:14:03Ian Hay: Exactly, yeah.

00:14:03Melissa Erbacher: It seems legit to me.

00:14:04Ian Hay: Yep, absolutely. It was. I double-checked. It just didn't feel right at first. So out of those 28,000 or 29,000, we've got 85 in total that had 59 59s. Wow. And I had to have a look. I had to see which state was winning or losing, depending on which way you want to look at it. 36 of those were in Queensland, so it was the highest in Queensland.

00:14:26Melissa Erbacher: Okay. But that's not even like 50% of the amount of events that we have. And I'm sure there's probably a couple of events in there that have done it twice accidentally or whatnot. But still, so I'm totally going to use that stat next time I'm run directing a parkrun day or even when I'm trying to convince people to be timekeepers because that's minuscule.

00:14:49Ian Hay: Absolutely. Yep, yep. It's nothing considering the number of 29,000. That's nothing.

00:14:55Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, so not only is it not scary, if you do manage to be involved in one of those circumstances, you get to join a very elite club.

00:15:05Ian Hay: Yep, there you go.

00:15:08Scott Trickett: I don't know if it's a goal we want to aim for. Well, that's how all this started, that Mel and I have never experienced a 59-59. Have you experienced a 59-59, Ian? No.

00:15:20Ian Hay: I don't think, no, we have had one at Stones before, but I can't remember if I was there that day. I don't remember what happened on that one, to be honest.

00:15:26Melissa Erbacher: If you were running or have been allocated a 59.59, yeah.

00:15:31Ian Hay: I don't think I have, so no.

00:15:34Melissa Erbacher: Well, we should have probably also asked of, you know, of those 80 somewhat times, how many people altogether actually received a 59.59. Yeah.

00:15:45Ian Hay: Yeah, well, there's quite a few. Like there's one event that's done five that's actually had five failures. Oh, do we want a name?

00:15:52Melissa Erbacher: All right. We'll ask you after we finish recording.

00:16:00Ian Hay: But we've had every range of numbers. Like we've had events with seven people in them all the way up to 200, 300 people. So, yes, we've covered the whole gamut basically.

00:16:14Melissa Erbacher: Oh, there you go.

00:16:16Scott Trickett: There's some really unlucky person out there who's probably had it happen to them twice or three times.

00:16:23Melissa Erbacher: And they're probably at Queensland.

00:16:27Scott Trickett: You'd really start to take it personally by then, wouldn't you? Those figures, yeah. Now, there was another question that I'm not sure you're going to be able to answer. We've been on a streak of no cancellations in Australia lately.

00:16:41Ian Hay: Yeah, unfortunately I wasn't able to grab those stats just yet. They take a little bit more work to massage, so I'll keep that on my to-do list for next time. I'm pretty sure I can get that data, but it does take a little bit more work, so I'll remember that one.

00:16:55Scott Trickett: Add that to the list. But speaking of streaks, I've been on a PB streak lately, kind of. You've got some stats around PB streaks and who's got the longest and which events have got the most.

00:17:10Ian Hay: Yeah, so I've done a bit of covering all the streaks, all the different types of streaks out there. The streak one's a bit controversial because a lot of people question the streak because I guess it could be manufactured to a degree at different events. But hey, if you do that, then that's a pretty cool thing to manufacture, I guess. So first of all, I looked at the total number of PBs. So there's the people who've got the most number of PBs across the board, not looking at streaks, just how many they've got. And Alan Burrell is sitting on top. So he's got 64 PBs across his 283 events. And that's 23% of his runs are PBs. So that's pretty impressive.

00:17:50Scott Trickett: Do you think he's been strategic about it? I don't think so, no. Just got lucky.

00:17:55Ian Hay: Just got faster.

00:17:56Scott Trickett: Just working harder.

00:17:57Ian Hay: Yeah, working harder. He has been lately, actually. He's been doing a lot of hard work with some of the runs and getting a lot quicker. So that doesn't surprise me, to be honest.

00:18:04Melissa Erbacher: That's amazing. That is so many PBs. I think I've had three.

00:18:10Ian Hay: Yeah, I think I'm following around that. The next person under him is 58 PBs, Jordan McGaw, 197 events, and that's 23% as well, so the same percentage of PBs for Jordan McGaw as well. So, yeah, two impressive numbers there. So if you then drop back and look at the PB streaks... So the biggest streak we've had was back in 2015. So Phil Downing did 28 PBs in a row. Wow. Which is a ridiculous number of PBs. He had to be strategic about that. You've got to wonder. I'm not sure. That's a lot to get. More recently, we've got Michael Holliday has done 17 PBs. And that's from end of January this year through to middle of May.

00:19:00Melissa Erbacher: Can we, sorry, I'm just, my brain is catching up here. Can we go back to the 28 in a row? Do you know if it was at the beginning of his parkrun career? Because that tends to be when people sort of, or close to the start anyway, when they get a lot of PBs, they, you know, they improve exponentially over time. And yeah, and then you sort of get to a point where it plateaus or it slows down at any rate. Do you know was that streak at the beginning of his parkrun career?

00:19:33Ian Hay: Well, it was beautiful. Just keep talking like you were because then I can keep grabbing stuff on the fly and I can make it look like I just have that sitting here ready to go. It's actually not. It's actually not. So he started back in beginning of 2013 and this particular one was 2015. From memory, I think it's been talked about before, I have a feeling I could be wrong that he actually got injured in and had to come back slowly from injury. I think it was Phil Downing. So he might have had to come back really slowly and build up, and that would explain a PB streak as well, coming back from a fairly big injury.

00:20:09Melissa Erbacher: Well, that depends on how fast he was going before the really big injury.

00:20:13Ian Hay: Yeah, yeah. So I know a couple have had injuries and have had really big PB streaks, and we've talked about them in the past, but I can't remember 100% if it was him or not.

00:20:21Scott Trickett: So you've got some more stats around PBs. Hit us with them.

00:20:26Ian Hay: I do. I've got some – I thought I'd have a look at time streaks rather than PB streaks. I find time streaks really fascinating. So people who – I've actually looked at two different things. So one is basically who week after week have got the exact same time. Now, that one you can't manufacture because even if you click it right on your watch, it's got to match exactly with the parkrun stopwatch, and being able to do that is just really hard. So we've actually got – back in 2013, we've got Riley Watson – Did 40 minutes and 29 seconds five times in a row.

00:21:00Melissa Erbacher: Far out.

00:21:01Scott Trickett: I know. I think Riley was connected. He knew how to manipulate the results processing.

00:21:07Ian Hay: I didn't check if Riley was an RD or an ED or something at the time. But more recently, we've got Ethan Nehot. So more recently, did three in a row at 21.58. And Ross Powery did three in a row at 24.06. So that was even the last month for Ross.

00:21:27Melissa Erbacher: Wow, that's very consistent running.

00:21:30Scott Trickett: Yeah, which I think is pretty cool. It's got to be incredibly frustrating if that's your PB.

00:21:35Ian Hay: You keep hitting it three weeks in a row. Yeah, we're thinking it looks great, but in reality it's just frustrating. But the other one I looked at quickly too was just how many people have hit the exact same time, time and time again, so not as a streak. obviously the ones who have done more runs, it's more likely. So John O'Grady, who's done 211 runs, he's had 11 times doing 25.01.

00:21:58Melissa Erbacher: I wonder if he was pacing, 25-minute pacer.

00:22:02Ian Hay: I reckon he was. I didn't look at his normal time, yep. And Chris Tuck, who's done 230, he's actually done nine times at 19 minutes and 13 seconds and eight times at 18 minutes and 59 seconds.

00:22:14Melissa Erbacher: Wow.

00:22:15Ian Hay: So that's pretty cool. And I'll throw one more in. We've got David Harries. And the reason I threw David in is because he's only done 102 runs, but he's done eight at 20 minutes and 18 seconds. So for someone with less runs, he's consistently run that a few times now. I like time streaks. There's just something about it. It's pretty cool.

00:22:36Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, well, we actually had our course record was held twice by the same runner who ran the same time twice. for several years until it got broken recently. So, yeah, very impressive. Now, Ian, talking about pacing and hitting the same time every week, on the weekend you were actually pacing at the Sunshine Coast Marathon Festival. Can you tell us how you got involved with doing that and did you enjoy your time?

00:23:11Ian Hay: I did, I did, sorry. My wife actually signed me up for that. I talked about doing it and I never actually did contact anyone. So she just said, okay, I'll email them and email them for me and signed me up to be a four-hour 30 pacer at the Sunny Coast Marathon. So that's how I got into it. I love it. I love pacing. Like when we do pacing at Parker and at Stone's Corner, love it, just the feeling of having people run with you and just being able to motivate them and help them get to the line and just get them through those mental barriers but man a marathon's pacing at a marathon was just a whole new level but um yeah loved every second of it but um yeah you get to the end of the finish line so i had one person in particular that finished with me it was her first marathon and she was just over the moon and just so thankful and happy and that's the reason i love doing it it's just that feeling at the end it's just amazing

00:24:03Melissa Erbacher: Do you have a bunch of people who sort of ran with you most of the way and then in that last kilometre they just go for it?

00:24:10Ian Hay: Yeah, so we had quite a few with us pretty much over the whole thing, so probably 30 to 35km then they start to drop off, which is where everyone tends to hit the wall. So the numbers did really thin out then and then we had a few the last couple of km that did start to drop off as well, so they start to struggle. And it's where everyone has trouble in a marathon.

00:24:29Melissa Erbacher: No, that's not what we want to hear. We want to hear them leaving you all behind and you have to stay on your pace because that's your job.

00:24:36Ian Hay: I'd like to be able to say that and maybe some of the other paces, but no, it's fine, unfortunately.

00:24:43Scott Trickett: Ian, did you have any concerns that you were going to blow up? Oh, absolutely, absolutely. So what's your marathon PB? Because obviously it's better than 4.30.

00:24:54Ian Hay: Yeah, so mine's 3.40. But at the same time, I have never, ever run a marathon in its entirety. So I have always had to start walk running at around the 35K mark. So I was very, very nervous about this one. Even when I've done four hours 30 in the past, I've had to walk run it. So I was very worried about that. But this one, I was able to run the whole thing. Still hurt. No matter what pace you do, it's still 42Ks and it's still four hours 30. So I was still hurting at the end. um but yeah hung in there and did you did you have a constant pace to go or did you go out harder or what was your yes so yeah you can do different things and i had planned on doing a bit of a basically a positive split instead of a negative split but um sunny coast marathon they did ask us to do even pace so it was six six minutes 24 the whole way um i'm not quite a robot so i wasn't able to stick to it exactly um but i was pretty relatively consistent throughout it so But it does mean when you're running, you're constantly looking at what. So that's probably the only downside to being a pacer is that I think you spend more time looking at what's than you do looking anywhere else.

00:26:04Melissa Erbacher: And was it your first time doing the Sunshine Coast marathon course?

00:26:11Ian Hay: That's my third time. My first time was my first marathon ever. I actually DNF'd. It was four laps and on the fourth lap heading out, I gave up. I went back a second time and I had to prove to myself I could beat it and I did. And then I came back third time as a pacer. And it's a beautiful, beautiful marathon. It's a really nice course. Love it. It's so much fun.

00:26:32Scott Trickett: And it was great that you could catch up with Mel while you were there.

00:26:39Ian Hay: Hiding behind that wig, yes. So I discovered about a day later that it actually was Mel, but yes.

00:26:45Melissa Erbacher: That's all right. It's not... Every person who can recognise me in a wig. I often get told, of course it's Mel. Or, you know, that must be Mel because I can't recognise who it is. Or that they wouldn't recognise me if I wasn't in costume. I also get that a lot.

00:27:04Scott Trickett: Mel, it's a compliment to your costuming skills that you are unrecognisable to everyone who knows you.

00:27:12Melissa Erbacher: I'm a woman in disguise. A master of disguise, I should say.

00:27:18Ian Hay: Exactly. It's a fun way to spend the event, though. Just get into it and have more fun.

00:27:24Scott Trickett: Well, good job, Ian. Good job on pacing it, the Sunshine Coast Marathon. But more importantly, good job on delivering more facts in a haystack for our park ride adventures this week.

00:27:36Ian Hay: It's always fun, guys. Thank you.

00:27:38Scott Trickett: We must get you back sooner than we have been.

00:27:42Ian Hay: So we don't have to say it's been too long. Yes.

00:27:45Scott Trickett: That's our aim. That's our goal for the next time we get you back on the podcast is to not comment on how long between visits.

00:27:52Ian Hay: So we'll speak soon. Excellent. Thanks, guys.

August Madness — Melissa Ellis

00:28:09Scott Trickett: We've been teasing for a long time. I've been teasing for a long time. For August Madness. It was originally going to be March Madness, May Madness, April Madness. But we finally got to it. August Madness. Now Mel, are you curious to what I'm actually talking about?

00:28:27Melissa Erbacher: I'm excited, but I have no real concept of how it's going to work. So please explain.

00:28:31Scott Trickett: Yep. It's a quiz. We're going to pit a parkrun adventurer from the greater state, Victoria... Against a parkrun adventurer from your neck of the woods, Queensland, I think it is.

00:28:46Melissa Erbacher: Known as the smart state.

00:28:48Scott Trickett: Four questions, parkrun related. The winner is the carryover champion and the reigning champion of August Madness to hopefully return, if this segment is a success, for October Madness, November Madness, whenever we get around to doing round two. And joining us from the greater state, is Melissa. Welcome to the parkrun Adventurers. Melissa, not Mel, Melissa.

00:29:11Melissa Ellis: Thank you, Scott. Hi, Mel.

00:29:13Melissa Erbacher: Thanks for joining us on the show, Melissa. Are you excited to be the first of two participants in August Madness?

00:29:20Melissa Ellis: Very excited.

00:29:21Melissa Erbacher: Excellent.

00:29:22Scott Trickett: And joining us from Queensland is Steve. Welcome, Steve.

00:29:26Steve Betesta: Hi, Scott. Hi, Mel. Good to be here.

00:29:29Scott Trickett: Okay. Now, I can sense the nerves, Mel. Can you?

00:29:33Melissa Erbacher: I can. We forgot to tell these guys that they're allowed to have alcohol before they come on the quiz.

00:29:39Melissa Ellis: Oh, seriously?

00:29:40Steve Betesta: I just want them to run.

00:29:44Melissa Erbacher: We really should put that in our initial contact when we ask people to join us on the podcast.

00:29:49Steve Betesta: Yeah.

00:29:50Melissa Erbacher: Sorry, guys. That's my bad.

00:29:52Steve Betesta: Not a problem.

00:29:53Scott Trickett: Okay, so here we go. The rules are you are going to buzz in with your buzzers. The buzzers are going to be Melissa. Your buzzer is going to be your home parkrun, which is?

00:30:03Steve Betesta: Berwick.

00:30:03Scott Trickett: Berwick, Berwick Springs. Steve, your home parkrun is?

00:30:08Steve Betesta: Cairns.

00:30:08Scott Trickett: Okay, so that's your buzzer. Buzz in whenever you want. And are we ready? Yes. Well, I forgot to mention, I forgot to mention, you may have already noticed, we've got the live studio audience joining us for August Madness. This is the first for the parkrun adventurers, so...

00:30:17[other]

00:30:29Melissa Erbacher: We don't usually record in front of a live studio audience, so we're also a little bit nervous ourselves.

00:30:34Scott Trickett: Adding to the pressure. First question. Name three countries in the Northern Hemisphere that have a parkrun.

00:30:43Steve Betesta: Cairns.

00:30:45Scott Trickett: Go, Steve.

00:30:48Steve Betesta: England, Poland, France.

00:30:52Melissa Erbacher: That is correct.

00:30:53Scott Trickett: Well done. Queensland's on the board.

00:30:56Melissa Erbacher: OK. OK. Question number two.

00:30:58Scott Trickett: Lots of Queenslanders in the audience too. That's great.

00:31:00[applause]

00:31:02Melissa Erbacher: Don't you love that support you're getting, Steve?

00:31:05Steve Betesta: Oh, I think it's fantastic.

00:31:06Melissa Erbacher: Fantastic. All right. Question number two. Membership of the Pirate Club can only be attained by running seven C's and an R. Name three parkruns whose name begins with C. Berwick.

00:31:22Scott Trickett: Cairns. No, no, no. Go, Melissa.

00:31:25Melissa Ellis: Okay. Okay. Castlemaine, Chelsea Bicentennial, and Cairns.

00:31:37Melissa Erbacher: Oh, using your own parkrun against you, Steve. But she scores all three 100% correct. Well done, Melissa.

00:31:48Scott Trickett: What a piece. What a piece. Couldn't get any closer. Okay, this is a who am I in great Sale of the Century tradition. Buzz in whenever you want. I'm a male Australian parkrunner. I finished my first parkrun in a time of 29 minutes and 36 seconds. I have completed 217 parkruns worldwide at 130 different locations.

00:32:14Melissa Ellis: Berwick.

00:32:16Scott Trickett: Go Melissa.

00:32:18Melissa Ellis: Is it Brendan Peel?

00:32:20Scott Trickett: Correct.

00:32:22Melissa Erbacher: Oh, my goodness. That's very impressive. We didn't even get to the clue that this male parkrunner has a club named after him.

00:32:31Scott Trickett: Well done. Oh, my God. Taking the lead.

00:32:33Melissa Erbacher: It's so tense. All right.

00:32:35Scott Trickett: Pressure's on, Steve. Are we ready?

00:32:37Melissa Erbacher: Ready for question number four, Steve? And Melissa, of course.

00:32:40Scott Trickett: You need to get this right to stay in it, Steve.

00:32:45Melissa Erbacher: All right. What event am I? I launched in Western Australia on the 26th of October 2013. Each week I average 44.5 parkrunners and 7 volunteers.

00:33:01Steve Betesta: Cairns.

00:33:02Melissa Erbacher: Oh, okay.

00:33:04Steve Betesta: Western Australia. Again, I've not been over there. I'll go with Geographe Bay, is it?

00:33:09Melissa Erbacher: Geographe Bay. No, that is not correct. What does this mean, Scotty? Does this mean we give the rest of the clues and Melissa can buzz in whenever she likes but Steve can't until she has a crack? I think that's how it works.

00:33:25Scott Trickett: I'm just going through the rule book of August Madness.

00:33:27Steve Betesta: I can't see it in my rules.

00:33:29Scott Trickett: I can't find that. I think we're a generous bunch here at the parkrun Adventurers. We'll just continue with the clues. Yeah, just jump in whenever you've got an answer.

00:33:39Melissa Erbacher: Oh, okay. This could get messy.

00:33:43Scott Trickett: We also want to go to the tiebreaker, so no pressure.

00:33:46Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, all right. Let's continue with the clues. I'm a two-lap course that circles a body of water. The town I'm named after plays host to the Three Waters Marathon. Local parkrunners have nicknamed me Funbury parkrun. And I've run out. Go for it, Melissa.

00:34:07Melissa Ellis: It's just a guess, but is it Bunbury? Yes.

00:34:11Melissa Erbacher: It is Bunbury parkrun.

00:34:13Melissa Ellis: Yay!

00:34:15Melissa Erbacher: Well done. Okay, so how many is that apiece? That's three to one, is it?

00:34:19Scott Trickett: It is, it is. So sorry to say it, Steve. Thanks for representing Queensland, but you never stood a chance.

00:34:26Melissa Erbacher: Oh, I don't think that's fair.

00:34:29Steve Betesta: I'm going to have to get to Western Australia now so I can at least have a look at a few of the parkruns over there.

00:34:38Melissa Erbacher: Well, that's why we threw WA in to the mix. We thought it would be a little bit unfair if we chose either a Victorian or a Queensland event for this one.

00:34:48Scott Trickett: But well done. Well done, Melissa. And Steve, thanks for joining us. Yeah, no, it was fun.

00:34:53Melissa Ellis: Thank you, guys. It was awesome.

00:34:56Scott Trickett: Now, there is no actual physical prize to go with being the first champion of August Madness, but I hope you're going to come back as returning champions.

00:35:07Melissa Ellis: I'm going to study up.

00:35:08Scott Trickett: Yeah. I reckon you've got a couple of months before we have you back on.

00:35:14Melissa Erbacher: Indeed, there's not going to be any prizes for any of the champions. But, yes, we're keen to have you back. And thank you so much, Steve. There's no prizes for second finisher either. Except you have the glory of being personally invited. to be part of August Madness. Everybody else is going to have to nominate themselves. So it will be interesting to see who puts their name forward to participate in future.

00:35:44Steve Betesta: Mate, really enjoyed it. Thank you. Great.

00:35:46Scott Trickett: Thanks, guys.

00:35:48Steve Betesta: Thank you.

Roving Adventurers (roving reporter crossovers)

00:35:53Grette Wilkinson: Hi Scott and Mel, this is Greta and I'm here at the beautiful Aldinga Beach parkrun launch. We've had a fantastic morning this morning. It's been raining all week here in South Australia and it's now a beautiful sunny day. Everyone's just finished running or walking and I'm going to go and see if I can find someone to talk to. Okay, I'm here with Minchi, and Minchi has just completed the Aldinga Beach parkrun launch. Hi, Minchi. Hello, how are you? Good. Now, is this your first parkrun? No, it's my 200th parkrun today. Oh, wow. Congratulations. Thank you. Where do you normally parkrun?

00:36:31Unidentified speaker: So I parkrun at Torrens. That's actually my third home parkrun. I started parkrun in 2012 in South Manchester in the UK. And when I moved back to Australia, I was very pleased to find that parkrun had moved here. So I then started running at St Peter's in Sydney because that was the only Sydney parkrun then and with my sister and the good Jonathan Arthur who was actually at the same school that I went to we started Parramatta parkrun in 2013. So that was my second home parkrun as such and then I moved back to Adelaide in 2013 later that year so Torrens is now my home but we've been around and about a little bit. Awesome.

00:37:14Grette Wilkinson: What a fantastic story. And what did you think of Aldinga Beach parkrun today?

00:37:18Unidentified speaker: Aldinga Beach parkrun is a beautiful one. The scenery is fantastic. The rain's managed to hold off for us and it's now lovely and sunny and warm. So, I mean, you could almost be blown away by the wind on a windy day, but it's just really lovely today and it's a nice course. A bit tough in some sections, but certainly manageable. And will you be back to Aldinga Beach? Hope so. It's not going to be a regular journey because it's a little bit far from home for us, but hopefully we'll be back on the odd occasion.

00:37:50Grette Wilkinson: Great. Well, thanks for coming and thanks for talking to me.

00:37:52Unidentified speaker: Great. Thanks very much. It was a great way to celebrate my 200th parkrun.

00:37:58Grette Wilkinson: Hello, and now I'm here with... Yika Adama. At the Aldinga Beach parkrun. And Yika, was this your first parkrun?

00:38:06Unidentified speaker: This is the first official parkrun, yeah. We did the trails last two weeks, but that was on a different way, so, yep. Well, welcome to parkrun. What did you think? I think today's great. So many people. And the weather is lovely today. And the view's fantastic. And I got my kids to run, so it's all good.

00:38:23Grette Wilkinson: And do you think you'll now be coming to Aldinga Beach parkrun every week?

00:38:27Unidentified speaker: I'll try. Yeah, I think I will. I'm not sure if I can get the kids to come along every week. But, yeah, no, definitely a good idea. And do you live close by? Yeah, we live close by here on Aldinga Beach. Yep. Well, fantastic. Well, thanks for coming to parkrun.

00:38:40Grette Wilkinson: Hope to see you again. Yeah, thank you for organising all this. Thanks. Okay, so I'm now here with... Pia. And... Kylie. And we're at the Aldinga Beach parkrun launch. And guys, what did you think of the run today?

00:38:55Unidentified speaker: Oh, it was an excellent course. Really liked it. It's beautiful scenery and it's just a bit of undulations in there, but it makes it a really interesting course.

00:39:04Melissa Ellis: Yeah, I thought it was really nice and even the dog loved it, so it was good fun. Oh, lovely.

00:39:09Grette Wilkinson: Now, you guys were walking the course today and why is that?

00:39:13Unidentified speaker: We've got a half marathon on tomorrow, so we just wanted to take it fairly easy for today, so we all rested up really for that. So, you know, back in the peaking, yeah, it makes it better to give it a walk for the last day.

00:39:28Grette Wilkinson: Fantastic. And now, is that the only half marathon that you're doing this year, or is that part of a goal that you're working towards?

00:39:35Unidentified speaker: We've actually got five half marathons this year. We've already done the three, so this is the fourth one of the five. Plus we've also got Sydney Marathon in a month's time.

00:39:45Grette Wilkinson: Fantastic. And I think you've been interviewed about that before on the podcast. So how are you going in terms of reaching your goal?

00:39:52Unidentified speaker: We're actually going really good. We did a 32k last week and right on pace. And then after we got home, we grabbed the dog and took the dog for a walk. So it couldn't have been too bad.

00:40:03Grette Wilkinson: Fantastic. And which is the half marathon that you're doing tomorrow?

00:40:06Unidentified speaker: The Adelaide half, yeah. We've done it before. It's an excellent course and, yeah, really looking forward to it.

00:40:13Grette Wilkinson: Fantastic. And do you think you'll be back to Uldinga Beach parkrun?

00:40:17Unidentified speaker: Definitely. One thing I want to do is come and run it because I really like running the courses and today, because we're resting for tomorrow, we just took the dog for a walk. So, yeah, I really want to run the course because it's a really nice course.

00:40:30Grette Wilkinson: Fantastic. Well, thanks for coming and supporting parkrun. Hope to see you at a parkrun in the future.

00:40:36Unidentified speaker: We'll do. Yeah, we'll always come to parkrun. It's an excellent time, yeah.

00:40:39Grette Wilkinson: Thank you. So we're now at the Breeze Cafe after the Aldinga Beach parkrun launch, and I'm here with Frank. Hi, Frank.

00:40:51Frank Finn: Hi, Greta. How are you? Beautiful day for a parkrun.

00:40:55Grette Wilkinson: It's lovely, and you've been a bit instrumental in getting this one up and running. Yeah.

00:41:00Frank Finn: Well, you know, it takes a team and I've had Miriam to back me up and yourself, of course. But yeah, just all the group that have been involved, it's really been awesome to be a part of it and to get another one up and running. And I'm sure it's going to be an outrageous success.

00:41:19Grette Wilkinson: And you've got a very supportive council in the city of Onkaparinga. Tell me a little bit about the work that you've been doing with them.

00:41:26Frank Finn: Well, when we first went along to get Christie's Beach up and running, they had no idea what parkrun was and they couldn't understand why we didn't charge people for it. So it took a while to settle them on the idea because they couldn't see how it would work. But once we persuaded them and they invested in that one, they've been so happy with how it's gone and just really, really pleased with how it's got people outdoors, being fit, being healthy, being positive. And they've backed us for Aldinga and they're also backing us for Reynella East. and that's because they love what we've done. It's really wonderful to be a part of something positive because that's how you make a difference in the world, being part of something good, just making it happen.

00:42:28Grette Wilkinson: I take my hat off to both you and Miriam for getting this one at Aldinga.

00:42:33Frank Finn: Oh, thank you. Yeah, well, we've got a very good core team down here with Denise and Sam and, you know, you've got Rebecca and Ben and who else have we got? Shona and Jordana. You know, they're the lifeblood of Aldinga parkrun because they're the people that roll up every Saturday and make it happen. Yeah, like hats off to them and all those that will follow in their footsteps. Because really, if you want a community event, community's got to get involved. And it's not hard, but you've just got to put your hand up and do it. So, yeah.

00:43:12Grette Wilkinson: Well, congratulations and thank you for bringing parkrun to Aldinga Beach.

00:43:16Frank Finn: You're welcome. It's lovely to be a part of it. It's a privilege and a joy.

00:43:20Grette Wilkinson: Fantastic.

00:43:22Frank Finn: Thank you.

00:43:23Grette Wilkinson: Thank you. Okay, so I'm now here at the cafe and I'm here with Denise, who's the event director for Aldinga Beach. Hi, Denise. Hey, Greta.

00:43:32Denise Brandt: Good to be here.

00:43:33Grette Wilkinson: Yeah, so you've processed the results now?

00:43:35Denise Brandt: We have, yes, for the very first time. So, yeah, all good. And 122 runners, walkers. Yeah, fantastic. Wow. And how did you go with the results? Yes, it... Took a little bit longer, being the first time, but yeah, we got there in the end and we've checked and they've all gone through. Fantastic. It's a good feeling, isn't it?

00:43:57Grette Wilkinson: It is, yes. Yes, definitely.

00:44:01Denise Brandt: And you had a fantastic day today, beautiful weather. Oh, I couldn't have... got a better day. It was, like I said, the parkrun gods were definitely smiling at us today. No wind and the sun came out. It started really cold, about five degrees when we started, but I'm sure it was warmed up and everyone was warm at the end of it. Yeah, so it was great. And have you had some really good feedback? Have, yes. And we had, everyone loves the course. It's so scenic and we had lots of visitors from interstate and further within from South Australia. Yeah, so really good. No, nothing negative, all positive. Fantastic. And so now you're off and running. We are, yes. So here's like... 12 months' time, we'll be going, where's the year gone? So, yes, it's fantastic and I think it's really good for the community. I'm sure Aldinga Beach will really embrace the parkrun and, yeah, it can only get better and stronger and bigger from here on. Well, congratulations and all the best for your future. Thanks, Greta.

00:45:03Unidentified speaker: Thank you.

00:45:07David Moss: I'm with Miriam, and Miriam, I gather you're the event director for Christies Beach, is it?

00:45:12Miriam - Christies Beach parkrun Event Director: Together with my partner, Frank Finn, yes, we're the event directors for Christie's Beach and very keen on having more parkruns here in the south.

00:45:19David Moss: Okay, so we're at Aldinga Beach. Why are we here?

00:45:23Miriam - Christies Beach parkrun Event Director: Well, Frank and I identified the need to have a parkrun a little bit further south than Christie's. We have a very large... a percentage of parkrunners that have registered for Christie's Beach parkrun around this area and Willunga, Port Willunga, McLaren Vale, etc. and well over a hundred really on registrations if you look at your postcodes and it's just a growing area, it's a fantastic area to live, there's lots of young families and immediately when I proposed the idea with a colleague of mine. She says, I'll run that one for you. So that was it. And that was Denise Brandt and her son Sam. So all going well. They're local and that should be fantastic.

00:46:07David Moss: And how much effort was there in getting the event started here?

00:46:11Miriam - Christies Beach parkrun Event Director: Just your standard sponsorship requirement. So we approached the City of Onkaparinga and they came forward through Tier 3 funding for the full funding of the event. And that was about it. parkrun headquarters, they were very excited about the prospect and John Laurie and Greg are very supportive. So that was it.

00:46:34David Moss: And you're planning a few future runs in this general area?

00:46:37Miriam - Christies Beach parkrun Event Director: Yes, we're working on another one in Reynella East because the City of Onkaparinga would like to have something in their northeast corner and we have found a spot for that and just going through the final stages basically to get that one. We have pledged funding for that and hopefully we'll have that up and running in December.

00:46:58David Moss: It's beautiful, so we're covering the southern suburbs from Adelaide.

00:47:04Miriam - Christies Beach parkrun Event Director: Yes, very well and look we've got Victor Harbor down further south and that's a beautiful parkrun but just a little bit too far for the normal area here and it's still an hour's drive from us in Hallett Cove. So our area, being the city of Onkaparinga that we're interested in and where we are getting a lot of support, and also through Halo, which ties in with their healthy, active lifestyle of Onkaparinga. Yeah, it's working really well.

00:47:34David Moss: We should say that the course here, like Christie's Beach, is beautiful. It goes along the beach, except on the top of the cliff.

00:47:42Miriam - Christies Beach parkrun Event Director: where which one this one this one is a straight this one is a straightforward course beautiful to 2.5 k's north turn around and come straight back again it's it's the simplest course uh very beautiful wide paths lovely scenery fantastic views um on a day like today well we've been blessed but um And you can run it barefoot, I've noticed. But Christie's Beach is a similar style course along the Esplanade. It has a few little wiggles where you go over Christie's Creek and come up further north, but basically it is also all beachside, so it's a lovely area.

00:48:25Scott Trickett: Thank you. I think you've got a winner here. Another round of roving reports. How many weeks in a row does that make it?

00:48:31Melissa Erbacher: Nope. I think that makes it lots. It does.

00:48:36Scott Trickett: So many we've lost count.

00:48:38Melissa Erbacher: I'm loving it. Yeah. Really, really loving it because it's a little part of the podcast that I can listen to every week that I haven't heard before. You know, I'm learning something new all the time, which is great.

00:48:51Scott Trickett: Yeah, I just love that we're out hearing from other people and other events and different voices and we're actually hearing from parkrunners and

00:49:01Melissa Erbacher: Love it. Yes, absolutely. Especially when we can't venture out to other places necessarily. These guys are reaching places we couldn't get to. Yeah.

00:49:12Scott Trickett: And someone actually, someone said to me at Brimbank last Saturday, said, are you going to do any reports? And I kind of said, well, no. We've got people doing that for us. And that's kind of what we always wanted all along because you hear enough of us, you and me.

00:49:27Melissa Erbacher: Exactly. And to be honest, I think they probably do a better job than we do.

00:49:30Scott Trickett: Well, I don't want to say that, but you're right. God help us if anybody else wants to do a parkrun podcast. They'll put us to shame.

00:49:41Melissa Erbacher: I'm sure it won't come to that.

00:49:42Scott Trickett: No.

00:49:43Melissa Erbacher: There is actually a lot of work involved. So I think other people would probably cotton on to that if they even considered it.

00:49:50Scott Trickett: So, Aldinga Beach. Some great work from Mossy. We're calling him Mossy. There was a Mossy with Robbo. I don't think we can take... We need a new name for Dave Moss.

00:49:59Melissa Erbacher: Oh, okay. Well, let's... We'll have to think of something appropriate. He's a barefoot runner.

00:50:04Steve Betesta: All right.

00:50:08Melissa Erbacher: which I guess, you know, and he's a Dave as well. He's a Dave who's a barefoot runner, and his last name's Moss.

00:50:14Scott Trickett: Yeah, there's a lot of eerie connections there, isn't there?

00:50:17Melissa Erbacher: There are. He is part of the Dave's Running Club also.

00:50:21Scott Trickett: Okay, workshop that. We need a name for David Moss. And Greta, joining us for the first time with a stellar debut.

00:50:31Melissa Erbacher: Awesome work from everybody.

00:50:33Scott Trickett: And South Australia, they're going crazy. As we've mentioned before, another launch this weekend, Port Lincoln. Now, Port Lincoln's a big town in SA. That'll be exciting. I think so. Isn't that the one where you go up around the bit and then it's on the other side of Adelaide? But you've got to... You've got to drive a fair bit to get there, but it's got a big population.

00:50:55Melissa Erbacher: Up around the bit and then you're on the other side. Yeah. That sounds geographically plausible.

00:51:00Scott Trickett: Everybody knows how to get there now, so I expect a big attendance for their launch on Saturday. And Newport Lakes are launching this week.

00:51:10Melissa Erbacher: In Victoria.

00:51:11Scott Trickett: Another one.

00:51:12Melissa Erbacher: Yep. Whereabouts is Newport Lakes?

00:51:15Scott Trickett: Well, Newport Lakes is, you could almost call it inner city. It's quite close to the city, I'd say. Eight kilometres from the CBD, maybe.

00:51:24Melissa Erbacher: Ah, so that's one to rival Albert Melbourne and Studley?

00:51:28Scott Trickett: No, not quite, not quite.

00:51:31Melissa Erbacher: No?

00:51:32Scott Trickett: It's in the west. You know the Westgate Bridge?

00:51:35Melissa Erbacher: No, not really. But when I say one to rival the others, it's another city centre type one that, you know, people might choose to go there instead, depending on where they're staying in the city.

00:51:47Scott Trickett: Maybe. I have no idea, because I've never been. But I'll be able to tell you all this information next week. Let's carry on with cake.

Launches and anniversaries ("Where is the cake?")

00:51:55Melissa Erbacher: Yes, because there's going to be so much cake this week. I think the attendances will be right back up there.

00:52:01Scott Trickett: Yes.

00:52:02Melissa Erbacher: So shall we start? Yep. Balyang Sanctuary in Victoria.

00:52:06Scott Trickett: Yep. Cairns in Queensland. Let's try and sync this up, Mel. You do one, I'll do one.

00:52:11Melissa Erbacher: Okay. So it's my turn. Chermside, Queensland.

00:52:15Scott Trickett: Hervey Bay in Queensland.

00:52:18Melissa Erbacher: Lake Joondalup in WA. Okay.

00:52:20Scott Trickett: Maribyrnong in Victoria.

00:52:22Melissa Erbacher: Mount Clarence in WA.

00:52:25Scott Trickett: Singleton, New South Wales.

00:52:27Melissa Erbacher: And Wilson Botanic in Victoria. Massive. That's nine anniversaries for people to choose from. That's all the states covered. Yes. Not the territories, just the states.

00:52:37Scott Trickett: Territories dragging their feet this week. So, yeah, next year at 11 with Newport and Port Lincoln joining that crew.

00:52:46Melissa Erbacher: It's crazy. And that's it.

00:52:49Scott Trickett: Yeah, that's it. That's it for another week. August Madness, massive, big success. I'm calling it.

00:52:55Melissa Erbacher: You're calling it?

00:52:57Scott Trickett: Highlight of the year so far.

00:53:00Melissa Erbacher: And a great preview for what's going to happen in November.

00:53:05Scott Trickett: Yes. Yeah, I think, you know, the audience is just making their way out now. It was great they could come along. And, yeah, look forward to... Well, are we saying November Madness, or...?

00:53:06[other]

00:53:20Melissa Erbacher: Well, isn't that what we decided, November Madness? Well, no, that was... Do you not want to wait that long?

00:53:24Scott Trickett: Well, that was just because we actually said that was when we'd get around to doing it again. But there's no reason why it can't be October Madness.

00:53:34Melissa Erbacher: October madness follows straight on from streaky September.

00:53:37Scott Trickett: No, you're right. November madness has got a better ring to it.

00:53:42Melissa Erbacher: Well, maybe we need to change the madness word to something else. So November something.

00:53:52Scott Trickett: Well, because we've also got our perlustration coming up again.

00:53:56Melissa Erbacher: Is it perlustration time already?

00:53:58Scott Trickett: It is. So there's lots happening. So let's not overdo it.

00:54:02Melissa Erbacher: Okay. Okay.

00:54:03Scott Trickett: So stay tuned for that in the next few weeks.

00:54:06Melissa Erbacher: Well, thanks for joining me again, Scotty.

00:54:08Scott Trickett: Thanks, Mel. You'd be off to one of those anniversaries, I'm guessing.

00:54:11Melissa Erbacher: I am off to an anniversary at Hervey Bay this weekend. It's a yellow theme, so I've got to make myself and Wes a yellow costume.

00:54:21Scott Trickett: Does anybody look good in yellow?

00:54:23Melissa Erbacher: Everybody looks good in yellow. Really? It's the colour of sunshine and happiness.

00:54:28Scott Trickett: I agree there, but it's also terrible with your skin tone.

00:54:31Melissa Erbacher: Meh.

00:54:35Scott Trickett: I look forward to the photos then, to seeing you and Wes looking fantastic.