Episode 126 - Clinton Bishop

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00:00:14Melissa Erbacher: I did my very best to find a catchphrase that could work. I used various slogan generators on the World Wide Web and I looked up episode 126 as a number in numerology to see if it had any great significance. Couldn't find any of it, so this is what you get for an intro. Welcome to episode 126 of the parkrun Adventurers podcast. My name is Mel Erbacher. I have a co-host. His name is Scotty Trickett. Welcome to episode 126, Scotty.

00:00:48Scott Trickett: Hey, hey, hey.

00:00:49Melissa Erbacher: Well, I thought we decided last week that hey, hey, hey was not going to be the new thing.

00:00:53Scott Trickett: Just wanted to confirm. Just wanted to confirm it that it's definitely not going to work. So that's not it.

00:01:00Melissa Erbacher: Okay. Have you had a good week, Scotty? I know the podcast only seemed to come out first thing Saturday morning, so it doesn't seem like that long ago that we spoke.

00:01:10Scott Trickett: Yeah, funny that. Are we organized? Are we more organized this week? What's happening, Mel?

00:01:15Melissa Erbacher: Yes. I feel more organized.

00:01:17Scott Trickett: Do you? Okay.

00:01:19Melissa Erbacher: Yeah.

00:01:20Scott Trickett: Let's not speak too soon, but I'm hopeful that this episode is going to come out a bit earlier than Saturday morning. But you know what? You know what? I looked at the numbers and I think people like it coming out on a Saturday morning, Mel. Our numbers, our downloads are healthy. last week.

00:01:37Melissa Erbacher: Okay, that's good. I did like that you did a little bit of a poll asking everybody whether or not their priority was for you to edit the podcast on Friday night. Only one person wanted you to edit the podcast.

00:01:50Scott Trickett: I know, how about that?

00:01:52Melissa Erbacher: Based on the votes. Everybody else was like, watch the football, help Mel with her costume.

00:01:59Scott Trickett: But I did both. So I watched the football and then I edited the podcast into the wee hours of the morning.

00:02:05Melissa Erbacher: You did not help Mel with her costume.

00:02:08Scott Trickett: No, no. And I played a little trick there with all our listeners because it wasn't your costume for Saturday. It was your costume for Sunday.

00:02:17Melissa Erbacher: And it technically wasn't even my costume. It was my husband's costume. But that's okay. You know, when you're boiling a T-shirt to change the color of it on a Friday night on the stovetop in the kitchen, you know what? I know this is a thing. People have been dyeing fabric for centuries successfully, all sorts of colors. But I still feel really accomplished when I can manage to do it in my kitchen on my stovetop.

00:02:45Scott Trickett: Well done. It's a great achievement.

00:02:46Melissa Erbacher: Always get a buzz.

00:02:48Scott Trickett: Can we share this photo on Instagram for our listeners so they know what we're talking about? Because you went to the Sunshine Marathon, and as is your tradition. You got dressed up.

00:03:00Melissa Erbacher: Sunshine Coast Marathon, yes. Yes. Well, it's always been my tradition. And last year I managed to loop the whole family in, hubby and Wes. Wes didn't have – well, he still never has much of a choice because he's too little to say no. But Adam is bigger and he can say no and he does repeatedly say no, yet somehow he always still manages to be dressed up in fancy dress. I don't know how that happens. But you know what's funny? The particular character that he was this year, somebody told me years ago that that's how they thought he ran. They said, oh, whenever I picture Adam running, I picture Woody from Toy Story. You know, with the floppy arms and funny legs. Yeah, I can see it. I can see it.

00:03:48Scott Trickett: You're right. Yep.

00:03:50Melissa Erbacher: And like literally one of the photos that a friend took of us on the course, we were only walking at that stage. But even the stance and everything, he is 100% woody. And the funny thing is that... as much as he is reluctant to get dressed up, everybody loves him when he's in fancy dress. Like he got all – nobody was calling out to me. I was dressed as Jessie. Wes was a mini Buzz Lightyear. So it was all, hey, look, it's Woody. Look, it's Woody. Oh, and Mrs. Woody. Oh, look, a little cute Buzz Lightyear. I was like, no, I'm Jessie. It's written on my race bib, okay? Where are the kudos for Jessie here?

00:04:35Scott Trickett: Well, look, Woody was the star of the trilogy, the Toy Story trilogy, so don't feel too hard. I mean, Jessie didn't come into it until Toy Story 2.

00:04:44Melissa Erbacher: No, she was in number three, wasn't she? I think she was too. I'm going to have to go revisit. No, I'm pretty sure it was Toy Story 3, Woody's Roundup.

00:04:54Scott Trickett: Okay, so even better then. So most people might not have even got to Toy Story 3, which was the best one in the series. So don't feel too harshly about that. So Adam is the real-life reincarnation of Woody. I can actually see it. I really can. He talks the same. He acts the same. He runs the same. Yeah.

00:05:15Melissa Erbacher: He was perfect. And, you know, I'm always very happy when he has a positive experience in costumes that we put together for him. And he made so many kids' day. Like, because it's the 2K family event, there were kids from ages tiny baby in pram all the way up to, you know, 10 or 11 who were running along. Yeah. The kids just loved it. They got so many photos, so many waves, so many people yelling out and stuff like that. So it was very cool. And just quietly, I'm sure he'll be back for it again next year.

00:05:53Scott Trickett: You know, I inadvertently made a kid's day at Saturday parkrun.

00:05:58Melissa Erbacher: Oh, yeah? Yeah.

00:05:59Scott Trickett: I went out to Brimbank parkrun to celebrate their anniversary. I'm just all about the anniversaries and launches these days. So I went to Brimbank's launch and I thought, one year on, let's go back to their anniversary, which was lovely. But I had a showdown with a seven-year-old and I was pre-warned. I was told that this little Westerfoldian was coming after me. He's getting better and better. He's getting faster and he thinks he can take me down.

00:06:30Melissa Erbacher: It sounds serious.

00:06:33Scott Trickett: It was serious. And he took off at the start and I couldn't keep up. You know, with kids, they've got no control. So he took off at the start. But I'm sad to say, Mel, I never caught him. And he took me down and I got beaten by a seven-year-old.

00:06:47Melissa Erbacher: Wow.

00:06:48Scott Trickett: Kudos.

00:06:49Melissa Erbacher: Kudos to the seven-year-old. No, you say kids don't have any control. I think that was probably part of his game plan to take you down early on, you know, not lure you into a false sense of security, make you chase him for it.

00:07:04Scott Trickett: Psyched me out, you know, because I saw him getting away and he was right up the front, like he was with the leaders. And I said, no, no, that's okay. That's okay. He'll fall apart. He's only seven. I've got him covered. But unfortunately, about 2K in, I had to stop to a walk.

00:07:20Melissa Erbacher: Underestimated him.

00:07:21Scott Trickett: Yep, yep, and underestimated the damage I managed to do to my ribs. So I don't think we alluded to this last week, but I have another four.

00:07:29Melissa Erbacher: We did talk about your four last week, Scotty. Did we? Look, you can't just keep coming back to this.

00:07:35Scott Trickett: I don't think we did. I think that might have been unfair. We might have been left on the cutting room floor.

00:07:41Melissa Erbacher: Oh, well, I haven't listened to the episode, so maybe you did cut it out. But we did have a conversation about it. Yeah, and so you're going to play the injury card again. You got beaten by a seven-year-old because you got sore ribs.

00:07:54Scott Trickett: Yeah, well, I had to walk. If I didn't walk, I reckon I could have been at least a bit more competitive because there were minutes. There was like five minutes between us in the end.

00:08:03Melissa Erbacher: Oh, my goodness. He slaughtered you.

00:08:05Scott Trickett: He did. He did. So it's one zip to Marshall. There.

00:08:11Melissa Erbacher: Well done, Marshall.

00:08:15Scott Trickett: I'll get him back. There'll be another opportunity.

00:08:18Melissa Erbacher: Have we talked about the Brimbank Horse?

00:08:20Scott Trickett: Yeah, I think we have. A year ago when they launched. But this is the one with water crossings. And we've had a bit of rain. And you're going to hear this in our roving reports later in the episode. We've got three roving reports from three events where it rained all morning. And it was a bit drizzly on Saturday morning here in Melbourne. And at Brimbank, you literally run across the river. So they've got a little bit of a raised path. And if there is a bit of rain, unfortunately they have to use their alternate course, which is a lot harder. Which is remarkable considering there's already a big bastard of a hill in the Brimbank course. But luckily there was a big turnout for their anniversary. Everyone was pumped. Everyone was excited. So the rangers at the park opened it up for us. We had to jump over some puddles. Some feet got wet. This was a bit different to get your feet wet at the beaches. This was get your feet wet in the river. It's a really good course. Sounds like fun. definitely put it on your list because it's a great event and the course does not disappoint. It is tough, but that shouldn't stop you from going, Mel. Just enjoy the view when you get to the top of the hill.

00:09:52Melissa Erbacher: Okay. Sounds good. Sounds like a plan. Joining us now from the West, we have a gentleman who has been on the parkrun scene for quite a while. However, he has just launched a fabulous new event. It's called Burswood Peninsula. His name is Clinton Bishop. Clint, welcome to the parkrun Adventurers Podcast.

00:10:25Clinton Bishop: Thank you for having me.

00:10:27Melissa Erbacher: Let's talk straight up about the launch of parkrun in your community. It's been a long time coming. You've been working very hard in this particular area for this course. Can you give us a bit of the story behind that?

00:10:42Clinton Bishop: Yeah, I think – and I was thinking about this this morning – My story shouldn't let other people put off trying to start a parkrun, but I had a fairly unique situation. I wanted to run it around the excellent parklands that have been built on a disused golf course and tip around our stadium, our new Perth Stadium. And there's some great paths, some really wide paths. It was an area I was running in. And I thought, what a great idea to have a parkrun there. So I approached the council and all the rest of it and, oh no, that's not our jurisdiction. You've got to speak to Venues Live. So I speak to them and they say, oh no, you can't start and finish in our area. We can't have that. You've got to speak to the Burswood Park Board. So we speak to the Burswood Park Board and they say, oh, yeah, we can look at that. But if we approve it, you've got a 16-week lead time. And by this stage, I'm all over. friend of your show and friend of parkrun, Matty Trent, went to school with our local member of parliament and got him to call me. And he gave me an excellent letter of support to the Venues Live people. And he also happens to be our state treasurer. And nothing happened for a little while. And again, I lost a bit of faith and belief that I might get it to happen. And next minute the stadium people came back to me and said, oh, this parkrun thing, we want to get it going. And all of a sudden it changed. So something obviously changed in their attitude to events in their area, which was great, lucky for me. And they recently had the Perth Marathon finish there, so maybe they thought this is a great way to utilise the area on non-event days and so forth. So, yeah, they changed. I was still the same person and we made it happen. So from something that was, yeah, looking like maybe being too hard or not an ideal situation because the course we would have had to have used to start elsewhere wasn't as good as a course as I think we've come up with here. But yeah, it had its challenges, but we got there and it was great. I think most people agree it's a really great place to run.

00:13:24Scott Trickett: So Clinton, for those not 100% familiar with Perth, this is the parkrun that's set up around your brand new stadium that opened recently. And it's going to create some really iconic shots, which I'm really grateful for in my role. But are people excited by the fact that they're going to run around this brand new stadium? I know Optus are probably going to be pretty bloody excited that there's going to be more eyeballs on their stadium every Saturday morning.

00:13:51Clinton Bishop: Yeah. Look, I think the people who run the stadium are excited because part of their charter is to get people into that area and using it on non-event days. I mean, it's a given that 60,000 people are going to rock up and watch a game of football or a game of cricket or whatever. But to have people using it through the week, Saturday mornings, non-event days, that's a big part of their charter. And credit to the government, they've spent a lot of money on making it an area that is attractive to come into. regardless of what's happening. So, yes, it's an area that, you know, it's designed to move a lot of people through, but it is a really nice park. There's great barbecues, there's great shelters, there's drink fountains everywhere, which... is great. You're right on the river. There's a beautiful lake, a boardwalk. Um, so yeah, it is, it's, it's a, even ignoring the stadium, the picture, it's a picturesque place to run. And of course we're excited in Perth about the stadium because, um, We waited years for it to happen, even just for a decision to happen. So, you know, and a lot of us are very passionate about our football and so forth. So, yeah, I think a lot of people are quite excited about having a parkrun right there.

00:15:19Scott Trickett: Well, I agree. The shots from event one do look very picturesque. But what happens if there's a game of footy on a Saturday afternoon? Can you still do parkruns?

00:15:28Clinton Bishop: Yeah, we can, and we find that out this Saturday in terms of how things function. The only difference is we won't have parking. So whilst there's parking, I don't know, say 100 metres from the start line on a normal Saturday morning, that parking is closed off for buses on event days from 6am. So I've bought myself a little parkrun trolley so I can park... further away and, uh, uh, and drag my stuff in on wheels rather than, um, two or three trips to the car. Um, and, uh, and yeah, people will have to walk a little further, but again, we have a magnificent footbridge. So I'm going to encourage people to park, um, over where they would have parked if they went to Claysbrook parkrun, Claysbrook Cove, that is, and cross the footbridge or walk in. The trains come in. So in a way, I'm going to sort of, well, I'm hoping to encourage more people to use alternative methods of transport to get to our parkrun, even ride their bikes. So we'll see how that works. But, yeah, we've got that covered, I think, so.

00:16:49Melissa Erbacher: Clint, you mentioned Claisebrook Cove just across the way on the other side of the river. Now that you've launched, you have become the closest to parkruns in the world.

00:17:02Clinton Bishop: In the world. In the world. You have to drop the inflection and do it Jeremy Clarkson style. It's in the world. Anyway, yes, we are.

00:17:15Melissa Erbacher: How did that manifest on the weekend? Were you able to actually wave at people who were participating at Claisebrook Cove?

00:17:21Clinton Bishop: No, but I realised my run briefing had got a little indulgent when somebody yelled at me, they've started! And we turned around and they were all running past on the other side of the river. So that caused me to get a little bit of a hurry on because obviously we'd like to... all start at 8am everywhere. So we managed to wave. Look, I honestly didn't have time to look at what they were doing. I was flat out trying to work out what I was doing. But other than watching them start, yeah, I think we can wave. We can probably take a few photos of them and them vice versa. But yeah, it's a funny feeling to go that... This is such a good thing that on either side of the river, there's two large groups of people doing the same thing. It's great.

00:18:20Melissa Erbacher: I think you'll have a lot of opportunities in the future to have some good fun with that and potentially make up signs that you can throw at each other. Well, not throw at each other, but hold up so that each other can read it on the other side, etc.,

00:18:38Clinton Bishop: I'm looking forward to perhaps trying a New Year's Day double too. That will be the ideal venues for a New Year's Day double.

00:18:48Scott Trickett: So you've been around parkrun for a little bit already, but how did you get involved in parkrun and what's your story up to launching Burswood Peninsula?

00:18:57Clinton Bishop: I had... The year I turned 40, I decided to run a marathon, like a lot of people do, and... that was okay. Did it, ran the Perth marathon. I was the last man to finish, um, and, uh, had the world's slowest photo finished with another runner in the shoot. Um, but, uh, um, yeah, so I'd run a marathon and then stopped, um, lost interest, wasn't running at all other than very occasionally, wasn't doing enough. Um, some friends of ours, um, Jeremy Savage and Kelly Underwood kept posting on Facebook how they'd been to a parkrun. I thought, oh yeah, that looks interesting. My wife went, she said, you ought to go. I said, I can't run five kilometers. It's embarrassing. I used to be able to run a lot and now I can't. I'm not going to go and embarrass myself at something like that. Anyway, then Jeremy launched Canning River along with Adrian Kenny and sent me a Facebook invite to come along. And I honestly thought, it's the middle of winter. Nobody is going to go to this. It's going to be so cold. The poor man. Like, honestly, if I don't go and show him some support... it's going to be terrible for him. You know, nobody's going to go to this. This is, you know, it's a horrible spot and all the rest of it. Anyway, I got there and there's, there's hundreds of people. So I ran with my daughter and sort of, we sort of dragged each other along to a fairly slow time. And I thought, Jesus is great. I'm coming back next week. And, uh, So I just kept going. And I'm really thankful that I got invited to that one. And it was freezing. But it just amazed me at how many different people were doing this, that your time didn't matter to anyone but you. Your ability wasn't being judged. Your willingness to turn up was probably being applauded. And, yeah, so... It just, for me, had a great vibe from day one. It got me back into distance running. I've run more marathons since. I've met, I will say, hundreds of great people. It's caused us to build new lifelong friends, travel, and all of that's parkrun. Like, honestly, I'm a cynical person, but parkrun has some magic that... But, yeah, like I say, it's done so much for my life and my family's life that I can't. And it all came down to just saying, oh, I'll get up early one cold Saturday morning and go and do this. I know we read plenty of stories in the newsletter about how life-changing it is. And I believe every single one of them because it is. It's life-changing. It's amazing.

00:22:14Melissa Erbacher: I love that you got the ultimate reward for going along to support a friend in Jez when he launched Canning River. Your motives for going were out of pity for him, even though you didn't feel comfortable heading along to any other events. It's nice that you got rewarded with the start of your parkrun experience in that fashion. You're also known in the West for being Batman. Can you explain that to those in the East and overseas who might not be aware of what that story is all about?

00:22:54Clinton Bishop: Well, like all right-thinking people, I've loved Batman since I was a kid. Always loved Batman. All the others are nobodies. Batman's the one. Great gadgets, all the rest of it. And that sort of carried on into adulthood. I've always loved Batman and my family for birthdays. My daughter has always bought me a Batman themed gift since she was old enough to start picking gifts. And I've got Batman stuff everywhere. And Claisebrook Cove, we're having a, and I think this might have been, must have been there. second or third birthday was a superhero theme. Anyway, it was an anniversary and, And I went to the sports store and bought myself, and they'd only just come out, an Under Armour Batman shirt to run in. Because previously I'd run avially in my Joker costume, which is hard work, I can tell you. It's hot, it's sweaty, the mask is, yeah. So I thought, I'm not doing that again. I'll get myself a proper running shirt and run as Batman this time. So I got the shirt and started running and someone came alongside me and said, are you pushing for a PB? And I'm like, yeah, I'm always trying. Oh, I'll pace you. So my friend Sasha paced me to what at that point was the fastest time I'd ever run. And again, Jeremy said to me afterwards, he says, oh, now every time you get the shirt on, you have to get a PB. So I sort of initially saved it for... for PB attempts and then, uh, uh, started running with it in the longer runs and, uh, um, and in marathons. And, um, it was great cause nobody knows my name, but people will always shout out, come on Batman. And, uh, um, I even went and got myself a Batuu that, um, was great for waving at people in, in, in races and so forth. Cause it's on my, inside forearm a batu for those who don't know is a batman tattoo um uh and uh yes so i um i've run in it and and like i say that the value for it is excellent i've bought more shirts too the first one's getting a little uh stinky and horrible but uh uh you know wherever you go i was in melbourne running the melbourne marathon and having a terrible day and uh um some ladies ran past and uh yelled at me oh you're the batman from bunbury and it was just such a great uh lift because i'd been down there earlier in the year and um yeah been recognized as the batman it's uh it yeah it's a fantastic um the best money i ever spent buying that shirt and it's uh yeah it's it's stuck and it's great and uh now i can't run anything else which is fine it's great

00:26:11Melissa Erbacher: It's always been my experience that running in costume, it could go either way. It depends on if you want the attention. If you're having a really bad day and you just want to be invisible, not so great. But if you're having a good day or if you perhaps need that lift and you need people to cheer you on and things like that, then If you're recognisable, people are going to yell out your name. Have you found that to be your experience? Because not a lot of gentlemen actually get fancy dressed, I find, and these sorts of things.

00:26:44Clinton Bishop: I've never been one for the overly fancy dress. I wear a, like I say, a Batman Under Armour compression shirt. I've got a hat and a tattoo. And within Perth, I'm known, I mean, I was walking out of a service station One day and someone goes, oh, hey, you're the Batman. And it turns out it was someone from the marathon club and we have a chat. So I guess I'm now recognisable even out of uniform. And Perth running community being relatively small, I guess, in terms of most people either run with Masters or the marathon club or parkrun. or a combination of. So there's always, um, people around who know you. Um, but yeah, I don't, I don't mind. I mean, it's, it's what I am. I've always run around the back. I've had more bad days and good days probably. Um, I, yeah, I enjoy the encouragement. I enjoy the fact that, um, plenty of people know my name and who I am than, you know, than might know who the people are who are at the, you know, the pointy end of the events. So, um, Yeah, and it's always been nothing but encouraging. It's everybody, you know, complete strangers or best friends have always been completely encouraging. In fact, one other story, Perth Marathon 2015, and it's the first and only time it's ever happened to me. Some friends got together and hung a hand-painted bat signal off the Narrows Bridge, which you have to run under twice for the Perth Marathon, or you did at that point. They've changed the course again. But that was just amazing, you know, to be running through there, having a good day that day, the best day. And seeing that, it was, I got a little emotional. It was great.

00:28:48Scott Trickett: And so many strings to your bow, Clint. You're just embarked on another adventure, launching a new podcast, Middle-Aged Mixtape, that I had listened to episode one, quite enjoyed it. How did that come about?

00:29:04Clinton Bishop: Well, I'd started... I've always been into music. I love music. I love listening to music. I love talking about music. I love the quirky stories and... Recently, I started blogging just stories about particular albums that had been important to me on my blog, which is called, here we go, I'll give it a plug, Fell in Love with a Girl, because all songs are about that sort of thing, aren't they? Falling in love or out of love. And Bill Irving, who, retiring event director down at... albany at mount clarence he um he sort of said oh can i write a couple of reviews yeah of course you can uh we put a few reviews of his up on my thing um i said to him i've got you know i'd like to start a podcast he said yeah i've got an idea for a podcast and um next minute we're uh we're starting a podcast uh the idea of the name was his it's a great name i think um yeah and we talk about music we talk about um uh the the different things songs do for you um what's good what's bad you know it's it's just fun so and we enjoy it yeah

00:30:32Melissa Erbacher: I had a listen as well, Clint, and I enjoyed it also. I love that you've got playlists that go along with the episodes and you put the playlists up earlier so that people can have a bit of a listen and then really have a better idea and understanding of what you're talking about, especially if it's new music to somebody or even if it's old favorites, you know, helping them remember those.

00:30:59Clinton Bishop: Yeah, the good part is, I mean, Bill and I have got, I think, while we've got a lot of tastes in common, there's a fair few things where he listens to stuff that I would probably never listen to and vice versa. And I'm assuming that's the case for anyone listening to the podcast, that there'll be some of that where you go, oh, this is right in my lane, I really love this stuff. And then you'll come to my stuff and go, oh, geez, Clint's a bit different. But... I think one of the things is to almost challenge yourself and say, oh, I'm going to listen to this stuff and maybe I'll discover something I like. Maybe it'll reinforce the fact that I don't like it. And like I say, sometimes I've found listening to a bit of Bill's stuff, yeah, that's not it. But then other times I'll go, oh, geez, that's now high on the rotation. I'm going to going to start listening to that stuff. So I think, yeah, that ideally the playlist would be in the podcast, but there's, um, a few copyright issues, but then again, um, I guess you could always listen to the playlist as a standalone and, uh, um, not even listen to us rabbit on about it. Um, though I wouldn't recommend it, but, uh, we want listeners, but, uh, yeah. So the playlists are fun to put together. We've just, um, just about finished the playlist for the next show. Um, which has been a lot of fun. So.

00:32:26Melissa Erbacher: You're obviously enjoying it, which is great. I think that comes through when you're having a conversation. You both sound very relaxed and respectful of each other, even when you've got different opinions, which is always good. What are the plans? Do you feel like there's going to be enough content, there's enough music in the world to have a chat about it every week going into the future indefinitely?

00:32:51Clinton Bishop: There's a lot of music around. Yeah, and to be honest, listeners have already sort of driven content for us in terms of I got a mate at work to listen to the first episode and he goes, oh, that's great, but, you know, you ought to do one on this and I won't reveal it because, you know, we'll save that in case we never do it or whatever. Or you ought to do one on that and all of a sudden there's – There's conversation starters and all the rest of it. So, yeah, I don't think... I mean, next episode is going to be on cover songs. And our thing is we must submit a list of... 10 tracks. And I said to Bill, well, I'm going to submit the cover and the original, so it's going to be 20. It turned out to be 28, and I'm refusing to cull any further. So there's loads. And, you know, I had 50 songs in that list at some point, so we could have, you know... So I think in a lot of ways, the task is going to be limiting... what we cover and how long we talk for because, yeah, I feel the subject matter's endless and there's always new stuff and there's always stuff you've forgotten about and there's always stuff to delve back into that, you know, bands that, you know, and that's the interesting thing, you know, if someone's of a similar age, you know, And you go, oh, I was into this at high school. And geez, I never heard of them until I was 25 or whatever. So there's, yeah, there's so much to cover. I think we'll be right for now. And as for, I guess, being an easy thing, to me, it's just two of us having a conversation where we've probably set up the template beforehand, as in we're just going to talk about this. After we've recorded, we generally chat for another half hour. on Skype just about how it went and other stuff. And, you know, the conversation's almost the same. It's about, you know, I was listening to this or I heard this or, you know, a little story about a band we saw. So, yeah, I think it's just fairly relaxed and easy in that respect because, yeah, we do respect each other's tastes and we enjoy hearing stuff that we maybe hadn't been exposed to.

00:35:21Scott Trickett: Are you a podcast listener, Clint?

00:35:24Clinton Bishop: Yeah, I do. I do listen to a few podcasts. More recently because my car, I got a new car a couple of months back and it makes it a bit easier to listen to podcasts in the car. So it's podcasts for the car and Although I'm also trying to listen to a lot more music, obviously, to do my homework for our podcast. So it's a time factor. But I do listen to the... parkrun Adventurers podcast not as often as i should um and i listen to a another podcast about footy called Footyology um and uh um yeah just a couple of others in general so yeah not not a voracious uh consumer but yeah i do like podcasts i think it's pretty awesome did you know bill before parkrun No, no. So again, talking earlier about the people I have met, no, I know Bill through parkrun only. Yeah, just a guy who'd started this parkrun down in Albany and I met him in Bunbury. I think one year we went down there to, I might have been the Yeah, the first year I went down to Bunbury to run the 10K. And, yeah, met him there and, you know, sort of met him here and there when he'd come to Perth and run a parkrun. But, no, met him through running. And, yeah, that's how it goes. So, again, the parkrun's sort of doing things for people and bringing people together in places you wouldn't expect and in ways you wouldn't expect, I guess.

00:37:20Scott Trickett: So now that you've got your own event, you're going to be event director, you're going to be stuck there every week. So your parkrun experience, I imagine, is going to change. You're not going to get to adventure to so many different courses. Are you looking forward to that? Are you worried about that? Or what's your feeling moving forward?

00:37:37Clinton Bishop: Look, I mean, there's worse places to be stuck. And, you know, that's part of it, I think. I'm... To me, I don't see myself being event director forever. I think it's something that probably has a limited lifespan. I mean, some people probably maybe will be, but I think part of the growth of it is you bring new people through and you develop it. So we'll make sure we've got a solid team of run directors, which means... And that's my next plan, you know, to make sure we've got a good group of run directors so that not everyone feels like they're... I guess, stuck, you know, or so tied to this event that, you know, they can do their run directing for a couple of weeks every so often and then have the rest of their time to do as they choose. So we'll work on that and then eventually someone will, you know, will step up and take over the event and that'll be me and... Excuse me. So that's, you know, I'm not too bothered about that at the moment. I know eventually I'll want to go elsewhere and do other things, but that'll come if I do the job properly, I think, easily enough. If I try and hang on to everything, I will be stuck there. So I think as long as I develop other people and bring more people into the parkrun family, then I don't think I'll have a problem with that.

00:39:22Scott Trickett: Absolutely. Love the attitude, Clinton. And if you get the balance right, parkrun life becomes quite beautiful. So good luck with your journey at Burswood Peninsula. Thank you. And thanks for giving us another taste of WA. We love hearing from you folk, even though you're a different breed. We still consider you as one.

00:39:44Clinton Bishop: So thanks. We are a little different, but, well, we still all love parkrun just the same. And we love when people get over here and try out our parkruns. I'm expecting to be the premier tourist destination parkrun in the world. But we will see.

Channel 5 News Crew

00:40:15Greta: Hello parkrun adventurers, it's Greta here and I am at the launch of the Meningie parkrun and I don't know if you can hear that wind and rain but it is a very windy, very rainy day here in Meningie. So Meningi is kind of southeast of Adelaide. up through Murray Bridge, Tailem Bend and it's sort of at the entrance to the Coorong and so you know it's a relatively small country town here at Meningie and we're here at the Lions Park to start the parkrun so we'll run in and then we'll find some people to talk to. OK, I'm now here with... Marianne Caneen. Hello, Marianne. And how are you this morning? We're at the Meningi parkrun. Now, you didn't run today, but I see you've got a camera around your neck. Yep, yep.

00:41:06Marianne Caneen: I did it the last... for the two trials. I didn't do it today because I'm taking photos for the local paper. Oh, lovely. So you're a Meningi local? Yes, I am. Yep. yes yeah local yeah how long have you been here um most of my life yeah yeah about 50 years oh 50 years yes that's not long yeah i'm nearly a local yeah it's a beautiful part of the world oh it's gorgeous yes by the lake and near the Coorong yes we've it's got country here it's beautiful isn't it so tell us about where we are here We're right on Lake Albert, which is very close to the Coorong. So we've got lots of water views. We start in a lovely park. This is a beautiful park maintained by the council. Yes, it is. And the track takes you right along the lake edge. So it's a very scenic area. route to take it's beautiful and through the memorial park and through the lion's jubilee park up past the sailing club so it's a very beautiful walk or run yes well yeah that's right walk or run and so do you think you'll be back next week to walk or run um i can't personally because i've worked some saturday mornings but i will certainly be back as soon as i can lovely love

00:42:23Greta: Well, thank you so much for coming along to parkrun and taking photos and I hope you enjoy it when you manage to make it back. Yep, you're most welcome. I look forward to it. Thank you. Okay, so I'm now here with Sharon and Sharon, you're the Deputy Mayor of the Coorong Council. Yes, that's right, I am. Thank you so much for your support for getting this parkrun up and running, the first parkrun in the Coorong Council area.

00:42:43Sharon: It is and I must say we're very proud of it and to have it in the Lakes Ward, as Marianne said before, it's a beautiful space and... We're very proud of this little area that we've activated in the last four or five years and still working on.

00:42:56Greta: It is an absolutely gorgeous park. So just for the listeners, there's a lovely playground for the kids with a boat. And tell us about the engraving out the front there.

00:43:09Sharon: with the pelican yes okay um part of that came about because when we started doing the children's playground some of the mums that were on the committee talked about wanting to have a pelican it's not quite what was fully envisaged in terms of the size so unfortunately we had a tree die and we had ant come up and from the southeast and he carved that we also got like to work together with our Ngarrindjeri partners and so we have this lovely one of two children basically feeding the pelican with the mullet from the basket at the bottom and so we're very proud of that. A lot of people stopped to take photos of it It's become a bit of an icon, really. It is, yeah.

00:43:50Greta: Very, very iconic, isn't it? Yeah, it is.

00:43:52Sharon: And it basically represents our community, our fishing industry and working together. Yes.

00:43:58Greta: And I've noticed here that there is a lot of partnership with the local owners of the land.

00:44:04Sharon: There is. There is. And Council certainly recognises that fully. We do work well with our Ngarrindjeri partners here and with the... the the nakamaldi also from Raukkan working with them with their seed collection and industry out there as well so yeah we do thank you and thank you so much for your support of parkrun thank you for coming along today and helping us open the parkrun oh my pleasure and i must say that for someone who is a walker um it was very inclusive to walk along the path with those who are zipping past and all doing their personal best that's right it's for everyone isn't it yeah yeah you don't have to be the fastest no i certainly wasn't no it was fabulous yeah and meningi's weather's changeable so come and enjoy us it is very changeable isn't it i was going to talk about the uh the sort of storm that blew through during your particularly your welcome speech i thought you did very well yes well i think i think we get used to i think the last one i did in meningi also we had a storm so we won't complain we all need the water so that's it that's we're very proud pleased with that so yeah right

00:45:07Greta: Thank you for having us. Pleasure.

00:45:09Jenny: All right, I'm now here with Jenny. And Jenny, you've just done the Maninki parkrun. How did you go? Not too bad. Yeah? It got better. The weather got better as we went along.

00:45:19Greta: How was that rain?

00:45:20Jenny: It was pretty mean, but it can't get any worse.

00:45:22Greta: Yeah, that's it.

00:45:23Jenny: It's only on the up from here. That's it, yeah. And so where are you from? I'm from Knaupen. And where's Knaupen in relation to me? Just 50km west.

00:45:32Greta: 50km west, yep.

00:45:34Jenny: East. East. 50km away. Yeah. And this isn't your first parkrun? You've done a few parkruns? Yes, I've done Murray Bridge a few times, but that's 100km from home, so it's a bit of a... bit of a hike and then i have done west beach a few times because our kids were living up near there oh yeah so i did that a few times yeah well they're both lovely runs too aren't they uh yeah very nice yeah i really like them yeah they're nice so you now got one close to home i do have one close to home so yes um weekends that i'm home i'll definitely be over here during the parkrun yeah lovely lovely and you do a bit of running i do i do do a bit of running um Yes, yeah. I'm not racing anymore, I'm just running, if that makes any sense. Out there for the enjoyment. Yes, definitely for the enjoyment.

00:46:21Greta: What do you think? Do you think we'll get some Meningi and local people out to the park?

00:46:24Jenny: Oh gosh, I hope so. I'll certainly be pushing it in my hometown. And then I do know they've got a local... home game for footy today so whether that makes a difference I don't know but um yeah definitely love to see heaps of people out here yes yeah it'd be great that's a lovely spot here it's absolutely beautiful it's just a beautiful beautiful location um yeah it really is nice never too hot

00:46:46Greta: No, no, because as soon as that wind picks up over the water, it's lovely and cool.

00:46:49Jenny: Yeah, it comes in. Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful location for running.

00:46:52Greta: Yeah, we'll encourage people to come in summer. Oh, definitely.

00:46:56Jenny: Yes, definitely. Yes.

00:46:57Greta: All right, well, thank you so much for coming to parkrun. I hope you come back and I hope you continue to enjoy it. Thank you very much. And you too. I'm now here with Kirsty, who's just done the Meningi parkrun. How did you go, Kirsty? Well, I made it to the end. That was good. That was good?

00:47:12Kirsty: Yeah, it's my first one today. First ever parkrun? First ever parkrun. Congratulations. Welcome to parkrun. Yeah, thank you. We certainly had a wintry day for it. Oh, didn't we just? I nearly backed out.

00:47:23Greta: Right at the beginning there at the welcome speech when that storm came through.

00:47:26Kirsty: Oh, my goodness. That was, yeah, pretty crazy. But anyway, I mean, I did walk as well as running. But, yeah, I enjoyed it. I'm glad I did it. And I figured if I ran, that would get to the end quicker. So that's why I kept running.

00:47:42Greta: And where have you come from today? I'm actually a local of Meningi. Are you?

00:47:46Kirsty: Yeah, so I wanted to come and support it and I'm actually thrilled to see so many visitors here. Well, they're new friends now, so yeah, it's great to be a part of it. Yeah, and you think you'll be back next week? Probably. I'm not going to be here every time, but yeah, I think I'll try to come as long as I'm around.

00:48:03Greta: Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it today. Thank you for coming along and supporting parkrun. Thank you. And I hope you come back.

00:48:08Kirsty: I hope to, too. Thanks, Greta. Thank you.

00:48:11Greta: All right, so I'm now here with Matt. Matt's the ED, Event Director for Meningi parkrun. Congratulations, Matt, on a very successful launch.

00:48:18Matt: Thank you, Greta. Yeah, it's taken a bit of time, but we finally made it happen, so it's fantastic. So also thank you for your help with this as well. It's a beautiful course. Tell us about the course here. So it starts at the Meningi Lion Jubilee Park, which is a nice green space just really right on the main road as you come through Meningi. Borders the highway and the actual Lake Albert. So basically we start off, we head up in a northerly direction, just under a kilometre to the sailing club. We do a lap of the sailing club, we then come back. past the, again, following the shoreline, right to literally the other end of the path, which is, you've got the Soldier Memorial Park. You do a lap of that, and then basically you just do a couple of laps. It seems really technical, but...

00:49:07Greta: It's quite a nice course because it is sort of a dual lap course and for those people who might not feel like they can do the full five, I was talking to a few of them today, they just did one lap.

00:49:17Matt: And that's it. And I think that's the thing that appeals to it about it as well because the other aspect too, I mean, it's quite a windy day today, but you've got plenty of trees for shade and I guess you've got a mixture of surfaces as well. You've got the paths, concrete paths, you've got grass area and then you've just got a very small part where you just cross the boat ramp.

00:49:36Greta: That's lovely. Well done on getting out up and running. So what got you involved in parkrun?

00:49:41Matt: Well, look, I'm still relatively new to the game. Probably not even 12 months yet. Started out at my home base where we're from, Murray Bridge, and Two of my boys are actually on the spectrum and I guess it's really hard to try and get something as a family activity from a health and fitness perspective and Gus, our oldest boy, he's really got into it and really enjoyed it so it's really enabled us as a family to connect and just really encourage and support each other. I guess the other aspect with it too is Look, we're all competitive. I think anyone that says they're not, they'd be lying. And it's good to be able to push yourself a little bit as well. So, yeah.

00:50:27Greta: So great family activity, but also appeals to the competitive nature in you.

00:50:32Matt: Yeah, that's exactly right. And I guess the other thing is, look, I love everything about Parker and I love the concept. And I guess one of the learning curves for me was to be able to step up and get an event organised. And I guess the beauty of this location, I certainly looked at the map where we have them in South Australia, and there was just that little pocket there where there was just nothing. And I've got to say a huge thank you to the locals here, the Meningi Progress Association and certain people involved with that have certainly come on board and really promoted it really well. So it certainly makes my job as the ED a lot easier to be able to have that support.

00:51:13Greta: Thank you so much for all the work that you've done to bring such a lovely event to this community. I'm sure they'll be very appreciative and good luck for the future.

00:51:21Matt: Excellent, Greta. And as always, any parkrun tourists are welcome here.

00:51:26Tony O'Connell: Thanks, Matt. Howdy, parkrunners. It's Toc reporting in for the Channel 5 News crew. I'm up at sunny Wodonga for the launch of Willow parkrun. And it's fair to say that the sun's up above the clouds today. With me I've got Maria who's the co-event director. You've had a sensational day Maria, great numbers. How do you think the day went?

00:51:48Maria: Yeah today was really awesome. It is a pity about the rain, it really did come down hard at one point but it wasn't too bad at the start so people were kind of standing around listening. We had 186 people which we are thrilled to have that many people especially with the weather being so poor.

00:52:06Tony O'Connell: I think that's the biggest number that I've been to on a wet day launch. That's just sensational. And it really did chuck the rain down all event. And just as we were starting to pack up at the end, the sun come out, which was really funny.

00:52:19Maria: Yeah, yeah, that could have happened about an hour earlier. But no, it is what it is. And the weather, you know, people still come out and run in the rain. So that's the main thing.

00:52:28Tony O'Connell: And we're back at breakfast at the moment and just looking inside at the cafe. I reckon you probably had 40 or 50 come back for breakfast, which is a great number to get back in the first event.

00:52:40Maria: Yeah, yeah. We've had a lot of people coming back for breakfast. It's been really great. So hopefully that's something that we can keep going for people to come back and have breakfast or coffee. That'll be great.

00:52:50Tony O'Connell: And just for the listeners at home, can you give us just a quick course description of Willow parkrun?

00:52:56Maria: Yeah, okay, so it's relatively flat. There's a few small undulations just to give you a little bit of a challenge, but it's just, it's kind of out and back to another park called Les Stone Park. There's a giant-sized stone there, so you tap the stone, turn around. On the way back, you pass all the volunteers at the start line and then you do another loop around the soccer course and then to a nice, fast, flat finish at the end.

00:53:22Tony O'Connell: Yeah, the finish where you're looking up the straight, you've got a couple of hundred metres in front of you and you can target somebody in front of you and just put the hammer down. It is a good fast finish.

00:53:30Maria: Yeah, there is an ever so slight descent too, so you can pick up a little bit of speed coming down.

00:53:36Tony O'Connell: No worries. Well, look, 186 people on a day like this. You should be proud. It's a great event, and we look forward to seeing it moving on.

00:53:43Maria: Thank you very much. Yeah, we're really happy with the way things went. Thanks a lot.

00:53:47Melissa Ellis: Hi, Adventurers. It's Melissa here for the Channel 5 News crew, and we've just finished Westerfold's Junior parkrun. We've got a freezing cold morning here this morning and we had a bit of rain and numbers were down a bit but I've got with me here Justine. Justine was one of our volunteers today. Hi Justine. Hello Melissa, how are you? I'm really good. Now, we've been going a few weeks now with juniors, and I've seen you here nearly every week.

00:54:14Justine: Yes, we do. We're big parkrun fans. We're a big parkrun family, actually. We've been doing parkrun for about 18 months, and we were overjoyed to see the junior parkrun start. Weren't we, girls? Yes. So this is Olivia here, my eldest. How old are you, Olivia?

00:54:31Unidentified speaker: I'm nine. nine and you've been doing the normal 5k parkrun with me haven't you yeah and your pb is actually better than mine isn't it and what do you like about juniors well i like how we can run on our own and we can run as fast as we want and we don't have to um be super like with our parents yeah it's fun isn't it yeah it's a bit cold today yeah how'd you go today

00:54:59Melissa Ellis: I was cold, but it was fun. And we've got your little sister here. What's your name?

00:55:05Unidentified speaker: Hannah. Hi, Hannah. How did you go today? Good.

00:55:08Melissa Ellis: Do you like juniors as well? How many have you done?

00:55:14Justine: I think today might be eight. I think we've done eight today. We're getting towards that wristband, aren't we girls?

00:55:21Melissa Ellis: Yeah. Awesome. And did you run yesterday at Big parkrun? No. So you just come along on Sundays now?

00:55:32Unidentified speaker: Yeah, I think I did a big 5K parkrun two weeks ago.

00:55:37Melissa Ellis: Okay.

00:55:38Unidentified speaker: Very good. All right. Well, thanks for talking to me today.

00:55:40Melissa Ellis: Go home and get warm.

00:55:41Unidentified speaker: Yeah.

00:55:42Melissa Ellis: Thanks for having us. Thanks, Justine. You're welcome. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

00:55:45Scott Trickett: I mentioned earlier that it was a wet one on Saturday, and it was. At Meningi parkrun, Greta was there grabbing her usual plethora of interviews. Tok had Maria at Willow parkrun. And my favourite, my favourite, Mel, my favourite roving report in the history of roving reports from Melissa Ellis at a little event called Westerfolds Juniors.

00:56:09Melissa Erbacher: So the Channel 5 news crew have been busy this week. Awesome to see, as always.

00:56:15Scott Trickett: Great work, team. And with so many launches and anniversaries this week, I really do hope we're going to have more next week. But you don't have to be in the Channel 5 News crew to submit a roving report, people. Don't forget.

00:56:29Melissa Erbacher: No, and if you just happen to find yourself at parkrun, it doesn't have to be a launch. It doesn't have to be an anniversary. It just needs to be a parkrun. You know, if you find yourself there, get your phone out. You've probably already got an audio recording app on there that you don't even know about. And just go find some people and have a little chat and then send it to us. We would love to hear about every parkrun in every corner of this great land and the world, in fact.

00:56:56Scott Trickett: So let's aim to get at least one raving report from some of these events that are launching. We've got the Eastern Gardens in Victoria. I'll be there. Come and say hi.

Launches and anniversaries ("Where is the cake?")

00:57:06Melissa Erbacher: We've got Shipwreck in WA. Arrgh!

00:57:10Scott Trickett: Wimmera River Horsham in Victoria.

00:57:14Melissa Erbacher: And Wynyard Foreshore in Tassie.

00:57:17Scott Trickett: And to complement them, we've got a ton of anniversaries, starting at Balyang Sanctuary in Victoria.

00:57:23Melissa Erbacher: Cairns in Queensland.

00:57:25Scott Trickett: Chermside, Queensland.

00:57:27Melissa Erbacher: Hervey Bay in Queensland.

00:57:29Scott Trickett: Lake Joondalup WA.

00:57:31Melissa Erbacher: Barabunong in Victoria.

00:57:34Scott Trickett: Mount Clarence in WA.

00:57:36Melissa Erbacher: Port Lincoln in South Australia.

00:57:39Scott Trickett: Singleton in New South Wales.

00:57:41Melissa Erbacher: Wilson Botanic in Victoria.

00:57:44Scott Trickett: And that's it. And that's it.

00:57:46Melissa Erbacher: That wraps it up. So next year on this weekend, we are going to have 15 anniversaries. That's got to be the mother load, a record for Australia, I think, Scotty.

00:57:56Scott Trickett: Yep. Now, how good was our segment last week, our new segment, the parkrun Adventurers Hotline?

00:58:04Melissa Erbacher: Oh, it was so good. I think everybody is intimidated about calling into the hotline.

00:58:10Scott Trickett: So is the hotline dead after one week?

00:58:14Melissa Erbacher: No, you know what? I don't think it is. I think it's just going to be like roving reports where it's a little bit ad hoc. So maybe it's not going to be something we do every week, but I think we should still leave it open. The hotline should always be open.

00:58:26Unidentified speaker: Okay.

00:58:27Scott Trickett: Good idea. And we actually are recording. We're recording only a couple of days after we've released. So let's give people more than a few days to have a listen to the last episode to know what we're talking about.

00:58:38Melissa Erbacher: It's very apt that you say we should give people some time, Scotty, because I actually bumped into some adventurers on the weekend. I was at Main Beach parkrun on Saturday celebrating a Friends Milestone Run. And while I was there, some fabulous parkrun Adventurers podcast listeners, Rhonda and Ian from Main Beach parkrun, came up and said howdy. And they mentioned that they were still a couple of weeks behind. So, you know, these are avid listeners. So, hi, guys. Thanks for listening. But they mentioned that because they're a couple of weeks behind, so they wouldn't really know about the hotline yet. So I think there are definitely people out there that are still catching up for whatever reason. They're not up to date. We need to give them more time.

00:59:21Scott Trickett: Yep. And it must have been the morning. I met a couple of listeners at Brimbank as well and they came over and said hello. So we're practically famous, Mel. Everywhere we go. We've got groupies.

00:59:31Melissa Erbacher: I'm not sure I would go that far, Scotty. But it is nice. We have been getting tweets and people are still hashtagging us on Instagram as well. So guys, keep that up. We love the communication. We always love to hear from you. And if you do happen across us while we are actually attending a parkrun, don't be shy. Come up and say hi. We always love to talk to you.

00:59:55Scott Trickett: You know what emails I don't like getting though, Mel?

00:59:58Melissa Erbacher: Oh, I think I have an idea, but let's hear it for the listeners' sake.

01:00:03Scott Trickett: I don't like getting copyright infringement emails because it happened.

01:00:08Melissa Erbacher: They came after us because of the sing-along. The lawyers are on the way. Yeah, the lawyers.

01:00:13Scott Trickett: The lawyer's got word that what we were doing in our sing-along. And I just want to say big ups to Bonnie Tyler, who didn't send her lawyers after us, and Giorgio last week with Electric Dreams. He hasn't got his lawyers onto us yet. But those other two miserable bastards. Who were they? Starship. They're dead to me. And as much as I loved... Africa by Toto. I always suspected they were. They only had one song, Mel. Toto only had one song, so they've got to protect it.

01:00:47Melissa Erbacher: I'm pretty sure they've had more than one song.

01:00:49Scott Trickett: No one knows. What was another song they sang? Toto.

01:00:53Melissa Erbacher: I don't know, but look. Oh, no, they did. They did a cover of Weezer's song.

01:00:59Scott Trickett: No, Weezer did a cover of them.

01:01:02Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, Weezer did do a cover of Toto, but Toto also did a cover of Weezer. Oh, did they? They reciprocated, yeah.

01:01:09Scott Trickett: Okay, but that's not their song. That's a cover, and that's 20 years after they were relevant.

01:01:15Melissa Erbacher: I think somebody is just a little bit sore that he got copyright infringement notices.

01:01:20Scott Trickett: Absolutely, I am. How little are you to come and pick on us? With our couple of hundred listeners every week, a little bit more than that, but not many more. And they want to suppress us. They want to come down hard.

01:01:37Melissa Erbacher: Well, Scotty, how would you feel if somebody was taking our audio and using it without our permission somewhere else?

01:01:43Scott Trickett: I'd love it. Admittedly, I'm not getting rich off this podcast. But, you know, the more the merrier. The more they hear of Scotty and Mel, I'm a big fan of that. Like, Toto have made their money from Africa. Starship have made their money from all their silly songs. I mean, the royalty's off just getting every time Mannequin gets played. That'll probably keep you comfortable for many years. But no, they'll have to come after us. Pretty dirty. So sorry, everyone. And I think everyone was genuinely enjoying the sing-along. But I'm not going to risk my family's livelihood.

01:02:24Melissa Erbacher: Maybe what we need to do is start releasing a playlist of the sing-along in collaboration with our podcast like the boys at Middle Age Mixtape do.

01:02:36Scott Trickett: Well, we're on Spotify now, so maybe what we'll do is we'll just release our parkrun Adventurers playlist.

01:02:43Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, and it could be an episode plus a song.

01:02:46Scott Trickett: So listen to the pod and then jump into a selection of tunes.

01:02:51Melissa Erbacher: I didn't know we were on Spotify. That's pretty cool. Yeah, we're everywhere.

01:02:54Scott Trickett: We're everywhere. And I shared all the links last week. And there's a few more that I didn't share. Yeah, I did see all those for the millennials. Yeah. Yep. And maybe that's why our numbers were so good, Mel.

01:03:04Melissa Erbacher: Because the millennials are on board.

01:03:06Scott Trickett: Yeah, well, information. People may not want to listen on iTunes or SoundCloud. Maybe they were just waiting for us to come on Spotify. Who knows?

01:03:17Melissa Erbacher: It is possible.

01:03:18Scott Trickett: Well, maybe it was because you were on with me now for two weeks in a row and we got a lot of UK listeners wanting more Mel Erbacher.

01:03:27Melissa Erbacher: Well, you know, stranger things have happened. I can't clarify whether or not that's actually a legitimate thing, but, you know, you never know.

01:03:37Scott Trickett: You having a bit of withdrawal symptoms? Just stuck with me this week?

01:03:41Melissa Erbacher: No, I wouldn't say withdrawal symptoms. I'm a little bit miffed that I have to wait like all the regular populace to hear what's on the podcast. You know, I've got to wait for an extra few days, whereas before I just, I did half the talking and I knew what the other half of the talking was. Yeah, but I will be happy to hear Nicola back and I can't wait to hear all about her adventures.

01:04:03Scott Trickett: And how are you going with the crown of August Madness champion defeating me in very, very suspicious circumstances?

01:04:13Melissa Erbacher: Hey, look.

01:04:15Scott Trickett: Hasn't gone unnoticed.

01:04:17Melissa Erbacher: Do not blame the umpire, you know. They'd make the best call they can at the time with the information they have. And look, ultimately, Scotty, in the final round, which was winner takes all question, I fire in a way, clearly, won that question yeah yeah so irrespective of everything that happened before that um But you know what? See, I thought I said – I'm pretty sure I said I didn't listen to last week's episode, but I have because I listened back to The Madness. And I can't honestly say I have ever laughed out loud so much while listening to an episode of our podcast as I did when I listened back to us fumbling over the questions and embarrassing ourselves with madness. And, yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And I'm sorry that – You had to do all the hard work and you had to answer eight questions correctly and I only had to answer two or three or whatever it was. But I still had a fun time and Simon did a great job with the questions.

01:05:20Scott Trickett: Yeah, look, winning's fun. And in hindsight, in recalling my week last week, it's pretty bloody miserable as well. Copywriting for inferences, beaten by a seven-year-old, fell over, bruised my ribs and lost madness in, as I said, very, very suspicious circumstances because answered more questions correctly, buzzed in quicker than you did, then had to edit it all while you just sat back and took all the glory.

01:05:49Melissa Erbacher: You know what the good part about all this is, Scotty.

01:05:51Scott Trickett: My life is shit.

01:05:53Melissa Erbacher: No, you're not a bad loser. That's the good part.

01:05:56Scott Trickett: I'm a loser in life.

01:05:57Melissa Erbacher: No, I get it.

01:05:58Scott Trickett: I get it. I tell you what, to take us out this week, maybe I'll sing along and ruin everyone else's week. I'll take some.

01:06:06Melissa Erbacher: No, that's still the highlight of all the episodes ever is you singing at the end of a podcast. Please do.

01:06:12Scott Trickett: Well, Nina never came after us as well, so she's on my good list as well. She's in my good books. along with Bonnie Tyler and Giorgio. Maybe Giorgio is still going to come after us.

01:06:23Melissa Erbacher: I think probably Giorgio might listen to Madness and feel sorry for you and not send you an infringement notice.

01:06:30Scott Trickett: Okay, where are we off to this week, Mel? I've already said I'm heading down to Eastern Gardens. I'm going to be on TV. Look out for us. We're going to be on Sunrise again this week. It's going to be fun times down in Geelong. Come and say hi. I want people to come and say hi to me because I've got a job for you. Anyone who says hi, good job.

01:06:49Melissa Erbacher: You do have a job for people.

01:06:50Scott Trickett: I do.

01:06:50Melissa Erbacher: And get there early. Get there early, people. Yep, please do. Like 7 a.m. early. I'm not telling you where I'm going to be.

01:06:56Scott Trickett: Oh, okay.