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Welcome

Scott Trickett: Welcome to episode 308 of the parkrun adventurers. My name's Scotty Trickett. I'm back one more time. They can't get rid of me, but also back one more time. Welcoming, welcome, welcome, welcoming. What is that word? Welcome, I can't say it. Welcome, just welcome back to the pod, Mel Erbacher.

Melissa Erbacher: Thank you, Scotty. It's awesome to be here again. It's been a little while.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, it has. It has. For me, just in general speaking, too. Yeah, obviously.

Melissa Erbacher: Clearly. I'm picking up on those vibes.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, yeah. Welcome back. This is fantastic that we're back together. We're filling in for Mel and Ollie. We are the fill-ins. We don't really like the parents term, so we can just be the fill-ins, the temps. Yeah, yeah. For one week only. We know it's late. We're out of the habit. But if you're listening to this two, three, six months down, it doesn't matter whether it's late or not. But hopefully we're joining you on your drive or your cycle or your paddle to parkrun this week.

Launches and anniversaries"Where is the cake?"

Scott Trickett: So let's start it there, Mel. It's a big week for you and I. It's party time in our worlds because... Kawana's turning 10.

Melissa Erbacher: 10. The big one, zero, double digits. It's very exciting.

Scott Trickett: And Westerfolds, we're turning nine, which I think is pretty good too. Not as good as 10. I'll grant you that.

Melissa Erbacher: It's a good birthday though.

Scott Trickett: Yeah.

Melissa Erbacher: You did the pick. Good birthday. And a shout out to Darwin parkrun, who also shares our birthday, parkrun weekend. There's a couple more. Party up there too.

Scott Trickett: Oh, I'm sure there's more after that. But these, we were the original three triplets. Yeah. Okay. Um, Mudgeeraba. Mudgeeraba launched, I think, same week as me. Same week. No, it's not mine. It's not my event. Same week as Westerfolds. So I think they're celebrating or not.

Melissa Erbacher: It is they. Yeah. They're that old. Yeah. Yeah, they've been around for a while. Well, happy birthday to any other parkrun event or happy anniversary that shares the anniversary with our home parkruns. I mean, we all do have to have favourites, but yeah.

Scott Trickett: Yeah. So I'm heading back home to Westerfolds because Westerfolds is like a Bloody rock. We've got parkruns cancelling all over the joint down here in Melbourne. The city's literally flooding.

Melissa Erbacher: Again or still?

Scott Trickett: Look, I don't want to make light of it because it is really shit if you are going through flood. But the river's rising and any event that's sort of on a creek or by the Yarra, which I've got to say, Westerfolds, it is on the Yarra. It runs next to the Yarra, but it's impenetrable, this event we just don't cancel it's probably going to be wet but it's going ahead crazy hats is the theme for our anniversary what's what's happening at Kawana this weekend

Melissa Erbacher: We have got a Shazza theme. One of our regular parkrunners, her name is Dee. She has had some health issues recently and she has a, what's it called when you, it's an alternate persona basically. So any running event, not just parkrun, but just, you know, Sunshine Coast Marathon or a lot of the local triathlons and things like that. Dee gets dressed up as the ultimate cheerleader and her name is Shazza. So when Shazza comes out, there's pom-poms, there is 80s retro physical What do you call it? Like a leotard. And you get the picture when you think of fitness videos from the 80s. And she has big hair and big ponytails and all that sort of stuff and bright neon colours. So we are having a Shazza theme in support of Dee and her personal struggles, but also just to bring the fun and the joy and the cheer to parkrun. So it's going to be very neon 80s. cheerleader kind of get-up this weekend. Looking forward to it.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, one of the more popular dress-up themes, I think, the 80s neon, you know, particularly the demographic that goes to parkrun. Like, I lived through the 80s. I've got vivid memories. This is like I was watching Stranger Things with Kasia recently. And, like, the kids were born. I think they're the same age as me. Maybe they're a year older. So, like, their experience, forget all the,

Melissa Erbacher: The Demogorgon stuff.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, the Demogorgon stuff. I didn't live that. But the riding around on my bike through, you know, through the suburbs.

Melissa Erbacher: No helmet.

Scott Trickett: No helmet. And being out for hours on a time. Absolutely, that happened. So, yeah, I've got vivid memories of the 80s, so I'd love an 80s neon thing.

Melissa Erbacher: It's a classic. Never goes out of fashion.

Scott Trickett: We're just doing crazy hats.

Melissa Erbacher: Crazy hats is also a really good one. It's one that a lot of people can just participate in without going to much effort at all. So it's a winner as well.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, I don't have a crazy hat though. So I've got to dig through whatever I've got and come up with something crazy and zany because that's me.

Melissa Erbacher: That's you. Maybe you should just go and buy some hairspray, some coloured hairspray or something and change the colour of your hair.

Scott Trickett: Does that count? You know, because it's going to be wet and then I've got dye and hairspray running down my face and then I'll probably start looking a bit more like the Demogorgon from Stranger Things and not the crazy zany, you know, middle-aged man that I am.

Charlotte: Mm-hmm.

Scott Trickett: At parkrun. So this is great. So parkrun is, you know... Party weekend. It's party weekend and there's something to be excited about for you and I in the parkrun world. There is.

Melissa Erbacher: And you know what would be... Sorry, I'm just going to start talking over you.

International Ugly Christmas Singlet Day

Scott Trickett: Yeah.

Melissa Erbacher: But you're talking about hats and crazy and stuff like that. It's a pity that it's just a little bit too early. You could have worn your ugly Christmas visor.

Scott Trickett: Well... I could have.

Melissa Erbacher: Is that crazy enough or not crazy enough?

Scott Trickett: Have they arrived?

Melissa Erbacher: They have not arrived yet. Oh, there you go. That's why I'm saying the event is just a little bit too early because give it like another week or two weeks and you might be getting around in your ugly Christmas visor.

Scott Trickett: Is now the time to tell you that I didn't order?

Melissa Erbacher: Look, I know you didn't order, but I also know that you are going to order from the next round.

Scott Trickett: I'm going to order. Yeah, yeah. Money's tight. You know, money's tight. You know.

Melissa Erbacher: Oh, yeah. No, it's all good. It's all good. Not holding it against anyone.

Scott Trickett: No, and despite it being my idea and coming up with it and supporting it, I still can't even get a free bloody hat out of it.

Melissa Erbacher: Well, look, I don't get anything free. I have to pay for all my stuff. This is the problem, Mel. This is the problem. Those things become cheap.

Scott Trickett: Yeah. So crazy, crazy this year. How's it going? I know, have you talked about it on the pod? I think Ollie and Mel pumped it up a little bit. How did it go? Were the numbers good? I know we re-released the original, which is great because a lot of people missed out on that, but it's not the real original.

Melissa Erbacher: It's not the real, it's reimagining of the original. Yeah, look, numbers are good. There's going to be another ordering round. So there's going to be a lot of the ugly out in the world again from the new range this year. So that'll be fun come December when people start wearing it. To be honest, I think there's going to be quite a few starting to get out in about November. which will also be great to see. You know, I really should have looked at the breakdown so I could have given you percentages of which one, you know, was more popular because it was actually really close. There is I think the original has just pipped 2022, which was the gingerbread, also fondly referred to as the poo-coloured one.

Scott Trickett: I think so. I love it. But I think some people are missing the concept here. Like, they're called ugly for a reason. And I thought you outdid yourself this year because it's hideous. And that's the whole idea. I think when you went to the large koala, like, that was just disgusting. It was fun, but it wasn't something you'd be proud to wear. And I think you've done it again with this year's version of the poo brown gingerbread man.

Melissa Erbacher: Well, that's the thing, see. I mean, you just have to try and outdo what was ugliest before and up the ugly every year. And, yeah, there are certain contingent of people that are like, yes, embrace the ugly. That is the worst one. That's what I'm going to get. And there are others that are like, I want to be a little bit ugly and But not full ugly. And that's okay too. You know, everybody has their threshold of tolerance of ugly. And, yeah, bring me the full ugly and I'm right there with you. So am I.

Scott Trickett: So am I. So I will order. Just make sure you open up that next round soon.

Melissa Erbacher: We'll do it early November. Early November. Possibly even before this podcast is out at this rate. Who knows? Okay, great.

Unidentified speaker: Yeah.

Scott Trickett: Great. So that's great. So that's what's exciting you about parkrun. I love that, you know, so long into this journey that there's still something that, you know, parkrun gives us to get excited about. So I'm loving my parkrun journey at the moment, you know, removed as an employee, removed as a core volunteer these days. I've stepped off.

Melissa Erbacher: You're not even on an event team, Scott.

Scott Trickett: No, I'm not. I'm not. I've since removed myself since the break from juniors and a couple of weeks ago I did my last Run Director stint at Westerfolds. It was just time, like nine years into the journey, Mel. It's like it's time to not be involved as a volunteer and just jump on a roster when I feel like volunteering.

Dieter Meyer: Yeah.

Scott Trickett: But it great gives me an opportunity just to parkrun with my mates wherever they are each weekend. Like I've been going every week. I still love it. Still love it. That's awesome. Can't help myself. And yeah, like really looking forward to going to Westerfolds this week and And the beauty is no idea where I'm going the week after that, and that's great too.

Melissa Erbacher: It's the mystery.

Scott Trickett: Yeah.

Melissa Erbacher: It's the mystery and the flexibility. Hey, and I totally get what you mean about being a member of a core team and things, and you've kind of gone – from being an ed and a prospective ed and just starting like a million things I'm not sure if there's anyone who has actually started more parkruns than you um but yeah I'm I'm approaching the 10 years of continual service as a Run Director at Kawana parkrun that'll I clock that up in February next year and I've had a chat to the current ed and said look I think I think I might get to 10 years and then I'll stop. But, you know, I've also told him two years ago, Oh, maybe I'll stop soon. And that was two years ago. So it just, it's not, it's not a lot of commitment. It's not hard work anymore. It's, you know, if you'd been doing something so long, it doesn't take up that much of your time, but I am conscious that we are welcoming a bunch of new Run Directors to the team very soon. So it, It might just be an opportunity for there to be some fresh faces and people up there and having a go at it. And you don't want to get into that. I don't want to call it a rut, but that position where everyone just assumes, oh, well, you'll do it. So like nobody else needs to step up because so-and-so is already there. So-and-so is taking care of it and stuff. So, yeah, maybe it will open the door to some other people thinking, hey, I actually wouldn't mind trying that out.

Scott Trickett: Absolutely. It's the evolving way of volunteer teams. I think it's a really healthy thing within the parkrun community that you don't stay too long. But having said that, 10 years and you clocked up to 50 volunteers this year, which is also to be mentioned and applauded. But yeah, I think it's great that new blood come in and new cliques form and new teams take it in different directions. And yeah, It's a really, really healthy part of the parkrun community.

Melissa Erbacher: So what are we going to talk about this pod?

Scott Trickett: Look, we've made a rough plan, but I know there are – should we go to the roving reports? Because I hear there's a cracker from Delta, from maybe the South Africans. So you won't have to listen to my South African accent this week. We've got real ones. Oh, God, Scotty.

Melissa Erbacher: You went there, though, didn't you?

Scott Trickett: I can't help myself. I can't help myself. So, should we do that now?

Roving reports & the Channel 5 News crew

Scott Trickett: Because I know Tracey was also at St. Lucia.

Melissa Erbacher: Yes, yes. Let's throw to Johan and Tracey and go on an adventure with them.

Roving report Johan Duvenhage — Delta parkrun

Johan Duvenhage: Good morning, parkrun adventurers. I'm here at Delta parkrun in South Africa. Today is quite a big day with Delta's 500th event. It's the first event in South Africa that reaches this milestone. And I've got with me Dieter Meyer. That is the parkrunner that today did his own 500 milestone. Good morning Dieter.

Dieter Meyer: Good morning to you. How are you today? Very well yourself? No, I'm excited. I've done my 500 today and I started about 11 years ago in November 2011 with Bruce Fordyce, one of the legends in the Comrades Marathon. And we started with even closely, I think 26 people. And we didn't know what to expect. And today we got sometimes over 1,000 runners and over 200 events in South Africa. So far, I've done 149 different events. And today I'm very, very excited and happy. I've done 500 events on the same day when it started. 11 years ago. I'm very, very excited.

Johan Duvenhage: Can you still remember that first day that you ran in Delta?

Dieter Meyer: It was uncertainty. I don't know what to expect. You know, they said parkrun. I don't know what parkrun. So we just came together, stood here in the park and said, look, let's run five kilometres. So we measured the day before Bruce went out. He looked... you run around the park I don't know I run every day in the park so I don't know what to expect but it was very very and I can see that the unexpected the other 26 it was it was amazing it was just something but from then on it was really really It's like a virus, you know, you can get rid of that. It bites you. If you start and you love it, you make a plan for the week ahead. As soon as you finish the parkrun, you think about where you're going to go next week, which parkrun, you travel all over the country. You see the most amazing, most beautiful places you didn't even know exist in South Africa. It's one of the most beautiful countries. There's places... You don't know that it exists, and you travel, which is very expensive these days, because the government don't want you to live healthy. So what they do, they go up with a petrol price. But I'm still travelling around. I'm not in Johannesburg anymore, so I travel most of the time all over the country just to be with people around. It's amazing. It's lovely.

Johan Duvenhage: So what has parkrun meant to you over the last 11 years?

Dieter Meyer: It makes you a better person. It makes you... city communities, you go to rural areas, you don't even know what's on it. Yourself, it makes you live better. It's like you've got a mission in life, you know, not just work and do nothing on the weekends, watching TV, and all that, so you go out, you know. But I would see more youngsters coming on, not myself. I'm not old, I say I'm old, I don't know where I'll start, but I mean, I would like to see more kids involved younger kids school children to come but they won't be allowed to do if the parents are not coming so they won't come out I encourage the parents please take your kids on a Saturday morning for half an hour one hour tour at any park close to you and and they will enjoy it so what's next 1000 You're 1,000 and I'm going to be 84. Yes, okay, we're trying. I'm trying. I'm trying, I'm trying. Dieter, congratulations and all of the best for your parkrun future. For you too. Thank you very much. Guys, I love you all.

Johan Duvenhage: Morning adventurers, I'm here with Elton Clothier-Huberts. Elton is one of the parkrunners that attended Delta right at the start at event number one. Elton, can you still remember anything about that first event?

Elton Clothier-Huberts: Yes, I can actually. We used to live in the area, so for us it was very easy, but also because of the company I worked for at the time, we were basically one of the original sponsors of parkrun. So that pretty much brought me to parkrun and started my journey to where I am now. But 11 years later, parkrun in South Africa and the thousands of people that we have here. So, yes, I can remember that day very clearly helping to set up the course and all of that and all of the branding and things that we brought along with us, and the all of 26 of us that took part I think it was on that day um yeah awesome and you're still parkrunning to this day I am still parkrunning to this day yes and uh I understand that you're now living uh between South Africa and the Netherlands correct that I am yes yeah I'm very happy that parkrun has opened in the Netherlands absolutely and in the city that we live in so which is really really awesome so there's no excuse I can't say oh yeah there's no parkrun no there's one very close to where I live in the Netherlands as well so so which one do you go to it's a boss so what does parkrun mean to you over the years it has um for me it all started off on a journey to health and fitness um at the time when I started I was at Probably my heaviest at 104 kilos and I'm around about 84 now. So it pretty much started my journey to health and fitness. But what it's also brought is the expansive community that we have, not only within South Africa, but around the world. So wherever you go, you're a parkrunner. That's one of my first things I check wherever I'm visiting, whichever city I'm going to, is where's the nearest parkrun?

Johan Duvenhage: Especially if I'm going to be there on the weekends. So no excuse. We all look at the parkrun map before we decide our holiday destination.

Elton Clothier-Huberts: Exactly. Elton, thank you very much for talking to us and all the best for your next few parkruns. How many parkruns have you done before? So officially, I think I'm around about three. 450, unofficially 450 or so, thanks to COVID. Thank you very much and have a nice day.

Johan Duvenhage: Thank you, awesome. Adventurers, I'm standing with Jabulani Mkhize, who's quite a bit of a parkrun legend in South Africa. Jabulani has done 252 different events in South Africa, whilst we currently only have 195 active. So how many do you still have to do in South Africa?

Jabulani Mkhize: Yeah, there's only three that I still have to do, and that will push me to 255. That is Dritz, it's still the new one. What's that, Gracepoint? Yeah, and I think the one in northern KwaZulu-Natal, I've just forgot the name. Yeah, so, and it was in, sorry, in... Bloemfontein, what is that? Inibos in Bloemfontein. Inibos in Bloemfontein. Yeah, so those will be the four ones that I still have to do. And I think they will push me to 256, yeah.

Johan Duvenhage: So, having done that many different events, that must be quite a logistical nightmare to get from place to place. How do you manage that?

Jabulani Mkhize: Yeah, that's correct, Johan, you know. Look, yeah, I just check on my discovery miles, how many do I have, and... which are a hotel I can get a good value for money and again which are airlines got specials yeah so yeah and that helps me in my planning on when it comes to travelling so yeah I look at that and yeah start making my booking based on on that yeah all right so uh what do you think is going to be your end goal for parkrun Look, very good question there, Johan. Yeah, look, as we are getting older, you know, I think I will, I would have retired on my marathon. Well, my parkrun for me, it will be something that I will always do just to keep fit, you know, type of people that you meet, you know, the friendly faces that you meet every week, you know, more especially the volunteer, you know, you know, I cannot trade that for anything. Yeah. So yeah, For me, yeah, it will be parkrun forever. Thank you.

Johan Duvenhage: So you mentioned volunteering. Do you volunteer as well?

Jabulani Mkhize: Yes, I do. I do volunteer. Currently, I have a 24th streak, if I include the one for today. Yeah, the next one I will be moving to 25th streak and that will help me to get my purple T-shirt. So excited about that.

Johan Duvenhage: Awesome. Thank you very much for talking to us.

Jabulani Mkhize: All the best. Thanks, Johan. Thanks for the interview.

Johan Duvenhage: Adventurers, what a fun day we had at Delta parkrun's 500th event today. 700 parkrunners joined in the celebrations, ably assisted by the bumper team of 45 volunteers. Since its launch, more than 42,000 different participants have completed a total distance of over 1.8 million kilometres here. That's 45 times around the earth. At the first event in 2011, there were 26 parkrunners and four volunteers, seven of which are still actively involved in parkrun. Four of them were present at today's event. They were Bruce and Gill Fordyce, Dieter Meyer and Elton Clothier-Huberts. I was really fortunate to have some time with Dieter and Elton and I can let the cat out of the bag. I will also be having a chat with Bruce and Gill later tonight and hope to bring that interview to you soon. Until then, keep well, mueble and sala antler.

Roving report Tracey Wood — St Lucia parkrun

Tracey Wood: Good morning parkrunners, it's Tracey in a Tutu and I have ventured out to the south side to the University of Queensland at St Lucia parkrun. If you haven't been here before, you need to come here in October. The jacarandas are blooming and it is absolutely gorgeous. A very nice parkrun beside the river, fast, flat, quite pretty actually with the river on the side and lots of trees surrounding it and the old buildings of the university. Anyway, I've checked in with the registration and talked to a couple of people and it looks like we may be about to start so I better get myself over there as parkwalker today and get this thing going. Cheers! Okay, parkrunners, I'm just here at the registration tent and I have found a lovely Suzanne and she tells me it's her first time volunteering.

Suzanne: Is that right, Suzanne? That's right. I've done quite a few parkruns, but it's my first volunteer.

Tracey Wood: Right, and what's your job today, Suzanne?

Suzanne: I'm barcode scanning.

Tracey Wood: If you install the app and you know what you're doing?

Suzanne: We did a bit of a YouTube video watching thing and we had some 10-year-olds telling us how easy it was. So we've downloaded the app. We're ready to go.

Tracey Wood: And how did you come across parkrun?

Suzanne: We kind of caught up with it on and off over the years on holiday. We'd be running and there'd be this big pack of enthusiastic people. And eventually my daughter told us that we should participate, get our act together and start doing our 5k's on Saturday so that's how we're here excellent and is this your local parkrun this is definitely my local and it's my PB parkrun so I'm very fond of it it's fast flat shady what more can you ask for excellent well good luck today and thank you very much okay thanks thanks Tracey

Tracey Wood: Okay, I'm out here on St Lucia course. It's sort of like a figure eight course, but I've just found that you have to go past the start again and up a little hill. And I'm walking with Charlotte.

Charlotte: Good morning, Charlotte. Good morning. Katie. Katie? Yeah. Tracey. Tracey. I don't know why I'm saying Katie. That's okay. Is this your home parkrun? Pardon?

Tracey Wood: Is this your home parkrun?

Charlotte: This is my home parkrun, yeah.

Tracey Wood: And how many parkruns have you done?

Charlotte: uh only up to I think only this might be my ninth so hardly any I never make it because I run I tend to have to run at night and other times when I can fit it in yes yeah yeah because you've got the girls with you this morning yeah we've got josephine audrey and Bea with me yeah which one was the first parkrun today It's Josephine's first parkrun, and it's Bea's first parkrun, and Audrey's. They're all doing first parkrun with a barcode. We've done it twice before unbarcoded.

Tracey Wood: Oh, wonderful. And they just dropped back a little bit, but they're not too far away. Joey, do you want to say hi?

Charlotte: Do you want to say hi on the podcast?

Tracey Wood: No, no, no, no, no. I haven't found many kids who will talk to me this morning. I think it's the gloomy weather. How are you travelling today?

Charlotte: Yeah, I'm good. This is fun to get out and about in the sunshine or the rain and get the kids moving. Yeah, it's good. Awesome. Okay, thanks for talking with me. That's okay. Love to meet you, Tracey.

Tracey Wood: Okay, St Lucia parkrun, event number 201 finished. Tracey in a Tutu signing out from the University of Queensland. Have a good day, everyone. See you on the viewside. Bye.

Melissa Erbacher: And thank you again to Johan and Tracey for those awesome roving reports. It's great. I really particularly love international roving reports where the accents are from the country that the reports are actually coming from. It's always nice to listen to people, whoever you are and wherever you are, but there's just something awesome. And listening to Dieter and the others that Johan interviewed, they have done some amazing adventuring and stuff themselves. Yeah. And also the stats at the end, Scotty, 1.8 million kilometres just at Delta parkrun by the participants themselves over that, you know, 11-year period. That's incredible.

Scott Trickett: It's a big one, isn't it? It is.

Melissa Erbacher: Well, I mean, with 700 participants on the weekend and 45 volunteers, I guess they've got more feet on the ground to do more Ks than the average parkrun in Australia, but still very impressive.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, I know. One thing you can't, you should never lose sight of, we should never lose sight of, is that the parkrun community in South Africa is very unique to them, isn't it? So their experience is exactly what parkrun has grown up and become for them. It's the same as it is here in Australia. And like, it is different. Shh, don't listen. Well, anyway, I won't get too controversial, but in the UK, it's very different, you know, and our Kiwis across the ditch, like the parkrun experience there is not there. So when we have a global community,

Melissa Erbacher: movement it's great to know that um it's a little bit different everywhere same same but different yeah and I got that coming through um in those reports and and Tracey's at St Lucia with their 201st event so um a few years behind Delta but we've been to St Lucia before and it is a lovely one so thanks Tracey for bringing us those reports too yeah now

Top 3

Scott Trickett: We're going to – we've got a couple of ideas for – are these new segments or what are we doing, Mel? We're revisiting – no, what are we doing? I know what we're doing. I know what we're doing. I know what I've got. I've confused my notes here. The main hosts, Mel and Ollie, had a massive weekend at Bathurst, broke attendance records there at Bathurst parkrun and then carried on. And, like, it was – was it like a mini – Palm. Palm. Yeah. I forget what they call them.

Melissa Erbacher: They call them a frond because it's, you know, like a palm frond.

Scott Trickett: Palm frond. Okay. I get it.

Melissa Erbacher: It's like an unofficial meeting of adventurers.

Scott Trickett: Yeah. Okay. So it sounds like they had a great weekend and the Punish, the Mount Panorama Punish looks like a great running event. So we thought, well, you thought, let's give us your top three because we always love top threes. Don't forget people who came up with the top three. That would have been you, Scotty. Scotty and Mel. Scotty and Mel. We're a team, Mel. Okay. So top three bucket list events. So this is a global thing.

Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, and the Panorama Punish would be a bucket list event for somebody. It's not on my bucket list because anything that says punish in it and involves running, just not ticking a box for me. But, you know, there are some sadomasochists out there who, yeah, they vibe on that and well done them.

Scott Trickett: Have you ever run on like a racetrack, like a car racetrack? Because I know you're a big petrol head.

Melissa Erbacher: Is it any different than just running on tarmac, like anywhere?

Scott Trickett: Well, actually it is. I've done it a few times and we do it down here as the Athletics Cross Country. It's a lot of fun because you feel fast.

Melissa Erbacher: Do you feel like Super Mario Kart kind of?

Scott Trickett: Yeah, kind of.

Melissa Erbacher: Do you make a lot of noises when you corner?

Scott Trickett: Well, internally, yeah.

Melissa Erbacher: Why don't you do it externally? That would be funny. If everyone that's running is just going, mew, mew.

Scott Trickett: Well, the thing is, you know, you're not going that fast, so it would be more like, mew, mew. Particularly at my speed. But, yeah, so I do – like I can see the appeal of the punish up in Bathurst. But tell us your top three that you want to go to.

Melissa Erbacher: Well, so – and here's the thing. And I think the top three doesn't necessarily have to be ones that you haven't done. Yeah, it's not the ones that you still want to do. There are some in there that you could have already done, et cetera. But I actually did a little bit of Googling about this because I thought, oh, there are some that I do know in my head, but then there could be a whole bunch of other races out there that I just don't even know about. And when you Google bucket list events for running, all these marathons come up and there are so many blog posts and articles about, oh, the top 20 marathons. It's just like, oh, that's a really long distance. You know, yeah, but one of my top three is a marathon and it's one that I've attempted before and didn't get an official finish time. So I'll give you that one. It's Marathon du Médoc in France.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, we have talked about this before. We have talked about that one before. It does not surprise me at all.

Melissa Erbacher: I do want to go back and drink more of the wine in Bordeaux while I'm running around in fancy dress. Definitely on my must-do again list. And it would be on my top three that I would recommend to anyone ever. One of the other ones is the Sandgate Sunset Run. And this one's a nostalgic one for me. It's one that I did with you for the first time and then I went back and did it with my family when, oh, gosh, I was like five or six weeks pregnant, with Wes and we were all dressed in glow-in-the-dark skeleton costumes and won best dress, like morph suits, head-to-foot morph suits that second time. And they don't actually do it anymore and it just makes me sad when I think about it.

Scott Trickett: It was such a good event, wasn't it? Dean and Vanessa bring it back because for those that don't know, it was a team event. You ran around like a roundabout that was –

Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, it was around about in the middle of Sandgate. So it's like an actual car round. So there you go. I've run on a racetrack kind of. I've run on a road.

Scott Trickett: You've run on a road. You've run on a racetrack.

Melissa Erbacher: Okay. All right. But, yeah, no, you're right. It's a relay. They had glow-in-the-dark batons. It was at sunset so it was actually like dark when you ran and the concept was to just do as many laps as you could in two hours with your team, in your team of four, and how you choose to make the configuration up of, well, team member one does five laps and then team member two does five laps or if you just do one each and just completely sprint the whole time, you know. That's the kind of concept that I'm talking about, like, These bucket list events shouldn't all just be marathons where, oh, you've just got to complete 42.2 kilometres. Boring.

Scott Trickett: Yeah.

Melissa Erbacher: give me something different and I've I've actually toyed with the idea about having a sunshine coast sunset run a few times and tapping into Dean and vanessa's brain knowledge and asking for their help to you know see if I can find a location here and set one up because it was just literally the most fun I've ever had of of any sort of big team um event so I 200 agree so

Scott Trickett: I'm going to put that on my top three as well. Yeah.

Melissa Erbacher: And sorry to everyone who's never done it and that is not currently operating because we're recommending something that you can't actually do at the moment. But, hey, maybe we could start a campaign and get them to bring it back. I don't know. And then while I was Googling, I did come across – oh, there were some interesting ones there. There's one called the ET Full Moon Marathon. And that's in America and it's run near Area 51 and they start the marathon at midnight so that you've got like the most opportunity of having an extraterrestrial encounter. But I just think that's a bit of a flimsy thing. Unless they guarantee me even people dressed up as aliens running around on the course to try and freak you out and like super light shows or something, I'm not sure that that would make my top three. But I thought it was interesting enough to mention. But my other one – is going to be any – Mel, Mel, Mel, it's the top three. Yeah, no, no, I only had two. I talked about the ET one, but that's not my top three. Keep count, Scotty, keep count.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, okay.

Melissa Erbacher: All right, so the other one is something a little bit different again, and it's called burro racing. Have you heard of this? Have we talked about it?

Scott Trickett: No, this is new to me.

Melissa Erbacher: This is new. So if you've read the book by, you know, what's the one with the – it's called – no, it's not Eat and Run. What's it called? You know, it's a really famous running one. Born to Run? Born to Run. That's it. The author of Born to Run. I think it's Christopher McDougall.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, terrible book. Well – You loved it. I hated it.

Melissa Erbacher: Anyway, so he's written not a follow-up book, but he's written another running book, and it's called Running with Sherman. And it's about him and his wife. They moved to, like, land, and they rescued this donkey named Sherman. And he didn't even realise at the time, but people running with donkeys, like racing donkeys, is a thing. And it's called burro racing because burro is, I guess, the Spanish word for donkey. And, oh, my God, I want to get a donkey so I can get back into running because it's If you think about how difficult it is, all the mental mind games that go on when you're running long distances just yourself and then you bring into it that you're going to be running alongside a donkey who has free will and nine times out of ten is extremely stubborn and may or may not want to go where you want to go. It's a recipe for awesomeness. So, yeah, I want to do burro racing. There's one in Colorado called Fairplay, Colorado, I think it's called. But in general, any length distance burro racing, I would be up for that.

Scott Trickett: I love how everyone's got their own motivation to get back into running. Some just want to get fit. Some want to lose some weight. Mel?

Melissa Erbacher: to race with donkeys look you know you got to keep it interesting if it's if it's just literally turning the legs over and over and over it's like well yeah I've done that I've been there done that what how else can we make this fun how else can we have an adventure um and a lot of a lot of the marathons and things like that they're in the tops because they're really scenic or they're in ridiculous places like the North or South Poles and they're freaking cold. So they add their challenges in many different ways if the distance wasn't enough of a challenge. But, yeah, I'm all for it. Let's go short distances with something different.

Scott Trickett: Yep.

Melissa Erbacher: That's where I'm at. How about you, Scotty? What are your top three?

Scott Trickett: Well, look, so you sprung this on me and I need to give it a little bit more thought. But so here's what I'm – because I haven't done the research, I haven't Googled, but here's what I'm thinking what I would like. So maybe if the listeners could reach out to me and tell me if these events exist somewhere in the world, and then I'll set about trying to do them. But, you know, there's an event down in Tassie, I think it's called Point to Pinnacle, where you start at the bottom and you run, like, I think it's a half marathon to the top, something like that.

Melissa Erbacher: Oh, of Tassie? Yeah. Tassie's a bit bigger than that, Scott.

Scott Trickett: No, no, a mountain. Sorry, a mountain. Oh, okay. So you start at the bottom of a mountain and it's all uphill. Yes, okay. And you finish at the top, right? I... It does nothing for me. Flip it. Start at the top of the mountain. Run all the way down.

Melissa Erbacher: I would like downhill running, please, for my entire race.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, so the whole race is completely downhill. That's what I want. It's got to be out there somewhere. So that's number one. And then, like, it would be great if you could combine this, but there must be another one where you finish. You know, sometimes you can, you know, you're running pretty hard and it could be in the summer and you get pretty hot. The idea of just running straight into the ocean at the end of it, so the finish line is you've got to finish in the ocean.

Melissa Erbacher: Okay. So like a triathlon but not do the swim first. Yeah. Do it at the end, which is like logical.

Scott Trickett: Well, you don't swim. You just cross the line and you just flop into the water.

Melissa Erbacher: You don't want to do any more exercise when you're in the water. You just want to cool down immediately.

Scott Trickett: It's just a cool down and it's partied and you've got some inflatable things devices going and just lots of fun does it have to be the ocean could they get an inflatable like kiddie pool and no because it like everybody has to be like this has to be a proper event where there's like you know a couple hundred or a thousand people and we're all just flopping into the ocean as we finish um so that's all you dress in your runners and everything yeah absolutely so if you want to start taking off your shoes or whatever and you can No, you can't have the option not to. So the finish line has to actually be in the ocean.

Melissa Erbacher: Yeah.

Scott Trickett: You know, you're either in or you're out for that type of event. Yeah. So that's what I came up with. And the sunset run, like generally when you told me before we started recording, like that's one thing that I would love to come back because I'm with you. That was so much fun that night. Like, it was such a big party vibe. You can go and have a massage in the middle of that. Yeah. In the middle. Or go and grab a sausage from the barbecue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. And it was a sunset run, so it did finish.

Melissa Erbacher: in the dark so that there's something exciting about that running under lights yeah the day was getting cooler as opposed to getting hotter yeah so many that yeah the other running events all get it wrong don't start early in the morning start late in the evening especially fun people they're supposed to be fun runs exactly um

Scott Trickett: Okay. So that's our new segment that will be a one week only, hopefully. But if listeners want, they get a lot more feedback now. They do.

Melissa Erbacher: They get emails and stuff when they check them and clear them out. So they've got volume to receive them.

Scott Trickett: Yeah. So we want to hear from the listeners what your top three bucket lists are. And I wanted to sneak this in a little bit sneaky in about half an hour into the pod. When we were both starting the pod, we were all kumbaya, we love everyone. And then we started to work for parkrun and We certainly couldn't come out and name our top three, but we always asked other people to name our top three.

Melissa Erbacher: We never committed to playing favourites. Oh, no, there was that one time, Scotty, that we actually told everyone what our top threes were, but they were just interference.

Scott Trickett: There was, there was. But I've checked the airways, so there's no… No flights coming over, no trains going past. Yeah, so I kind of do want to hear your top three names, parkruns, Mel, and this is no, like every, we've talked about this in the past, every parkrun event's great and it is what it is, but just some weeks you might have rocked up at the right time and caught a great vibe, to one of you everyone's got favourites and if they don't any anyone who says they haven't got favourites are lying yeah yeah so now I'm I'll I'll go first I'll rip off the band-aid um oh we're gonna do this now are we yeah we're gonna do this now yeah so you didn't give me any time to prep for the top three events so I'm not giving you any time to prep for your top three parkruns but I've had this in the back of my mind for six years so

Melissa Erbacher: Oh, okay. And you're going, you're finally. I want to use this opportunity. Dun, dun, dun. This is the reveal, people.

Scott Trickett: No one can come after me. So I just, but again, just for very, they're all very different experiences. Here's the disclaimer. Forget the disclaimer. I had, like, when we did the palm at the Beaches, we did it for a reason. I'd love to go back to The Beaches, like, on a really nice, the same thing we just talked about there, like, finishing the ocean. Yeah. Like, I kind of like it, so. a really nice summer day or a spring day when the sun's out.

Melissa Erbacher: Tide is out. Tide is out.

Scott Trickett: The conditions are perfect. I'd love to go back to the Beaches. I'm not sure if it exists. I'm sure the team can tell us there, Sonja and Peter.

Melissa Erbacher: I'm sure it exists. I'm sure they have had those magical days, but you just have to probably go through about 42 of the other kind before you get to those magical days, which makes them even more special.

Scott Trickett: So the Beaches is just, I just had a great morning that morning and it was also running. at the event. There's an event down here, Phillip Island, which is actually not on Phillip Island, which is a bit bizarre, but I've been there a few times.

Melissa Erbacher: How did that one get through the naming convention?

Scott Trickett: Ah, now we can talk about the naming convention. No, I'll save that for the next pot. We're coming back. We're doing the pot again. Are we?

Melissa Erbacher: Are we? Oh, yeah.

Scott Trickett: We'll tease it. Yeah, we'll tease it about our plans for the next one that we'll do some prep for. But yeah, the parkrun on Phillip Island, it's not on Phillip Island, is a cracker because they've got, if you go there, there's a farmer's market on once a month. But again, it's by the ocean. It's a little bit hilly. And it's just one of those things. It may not be the best event. It's an out and back. But every time I've gone there, I've really enjoyed it and given it another opportunity. I'd love to go back. Yeah. You know, Phillip Island is in my top three.

Melissa Erbacher: Okay, so you've got one in New South Wales, one in Victoria.

Scott Trickett: Victoria. And then I go overseas because I've been lucky enough to go overseas. And when my first trip as an employee of parkrun, oh no, first, second, I think it was the first trip, we did Tring parkrun, which is now sadly closed. And it was such a good morning. I was really drinking the Kool-Aid back then. I loved parkrun. And the morning with all the ambassadors from around the UK and just the course itself. Like it was changing. It was up and down. You went into the forest and you came out of the forest and there was hills. And it was just another fun morning. So it was a morning that stands out for the timing because it was the conference at the time. So everybody who was there.

Melissa Erbacher: You were feeling loved up. Yeah, I was. And it was a great morning.

Scott Trickett: And like if you go back through the memories. Like that's my top three. So my top three, Beaches, Tring and Phillip Island.

Melissa Erbacher: Scotty, I was not at any of those events that you just named on those days.

Scott Trickett: Awkward because this is purely about the experience of running the course, not the people. If I did people, top three, Westerfolds, Studley, Jells.

Melissa Erbacher: Okay.

Scott Trickett: Kawana, Kawana.

Melissa Erbacher: I haven't done Jells. You did that with my husband. Okay.

Scott Trickett: Okay. So have I given you enough time to make your list?

Melissa Erbacher: No, now I've just got to scrub out the three that I had in my top three because you were at all. No, not really. And obviously we're abiding by our own self-imposed rule of not your home parkrun.

Scott Trickett: Yep.

Melissa Erbacher: Yep, okay. Then one of them would, and this is the first one that comes to mind, Margaret River. And, yeah, it's a beautiful trail course. I, once again, had just an amazing morning, Maddy Trent.

Scott Trickett: Who? Oh, now I remember Maddy Trent, yep. Great bloke.

Melissa Erbacher: Great bloke. He is an awesome bloke. And... And sorry, you distracted me now. Maddie Trent and Cassie Hughes came down and did the course with us and we went and had breakfast after and I had shuka and it was delicious and Wes was just little so he was in a carrier and I was able to complete the course and they had the gnomes on the course and there was undies on the stamp and, you know, it had everything. Okay. Undies on the stump? It was undies on the stump. Don't ask me why or where they came from, but it was a landmark.

Scott Trickett: Okay. So a bit of teenage sex in the woods the night before?

Melissa Erbacher: No, they weren't that fancy. Okay. Yeah. I think these were undies that had just been left there for a long time. They definitely look like adult undies. So maybe somebody had a run emergency or something. I don't know. Yeah, nasty, nasty. Yeah, you certainly wouldn't be touching those undies.

Scott Trickett: But that experience made your top three.

Melissa Erbacher: I'm sure whoever put them on the stump used a stick, a long stick to put them there for everybody else's viewing pleasure.

Scott Trickett: Okay, okay.

Melissa Erbacher: But, yeah, no, it's just the vibe of the whole morning. And that one kind of extended into the whole long weekend, you know, because it was – I think it was – was it my first – No, it wasn't my first West Australian event but it was a gift to me, the trip over there was a gift to me from my husband for my birthday because it was the westernmost parkrun at that stage and I was chasing the Compass Club and there was this amazing ice cream place in Margaret River as well or not far from Margaret River which has got like 88 flavours of ice cream and So we went in there three times over a couple of days and every time I went back I got like three different flavours on a cone and the first time I got served by the same guy and I think he was owned by, I think he owned the ice cream place and he was pretty grossed out by my combinations. You know, I'd be like, yes, I would like mango and bubblegum and tiramisu, please. And then the next day I went back.

Scott Trickett: Classic combination.

Melissa Erbacher: The next day I went back, I got three different ones because I was like, okay, I have to maximise. They have got 88 flavours. Obviously I can't taste them all, but I'm going to do my damnedest. And yeah, over the course of three days, like by the time I went in on the third days, he just, his eyes lit up. He's like, what is she going to ask for today? And that was Wesley's first ice cream as well. So we've got all the cute like pudgy six-month-old baby kind of licking ice cream and having his delight too. So, yeah, it was Margaret River because of just that whole weekend experience.

Scott Trickett: Okay, good. Number two?

Melissa Erbacher: Number two. Okay.

Scott Trickett: Good ice cream and undie chat though.

Melissa Erbacher: I bought my A game, Scotty. Yep. Um, this, it's really hard. Like, cause there are so many, we've had so many adventures and there are so many standout adventures that they all blend into each other. If that makes sense. Um, Maybe Coffs Harbour because that's where I joined the pirate club. And we travelled there with my family, with my brother and sister-in-law and my niece and nephew. And we all got dressed up as pirates because that's where we were all like, we corresponded for Adam, myself, Nick, Shell, Ron and Lani. That's six of us to all have done the seven C's and get an R. And this was like our final C. So that was a big thing. That was a big logistical, okay, well, we can't go there until this and you guys have got to go there and get those seas and stuff like that. So it was a big accomplishment to get there and do that and to do that with family was really awesome too, especially like my niece and nephew both dressed as pirates and stuff as well. It was just a rollicking fun event and a beautiful spot and we saw dolphins, you know, in the water off the break wall and,

Scott Trickett: you don't get to say that at about a lot of parkruns so that was really magic too um oh I'm gonna I'm gonna have to take a time out on number three if that's okay well hey take it on notice so when we come back so I've got this idea for like a reunion pod where we'll bring back you know everyone from episode one you know we'll get Tim back on find out what he's up to um From episode one. Well, Tim was on episode one. Yeah, yeah. No, I know. Just the early days. Yeah, let's get Robbo back on.

Melissa Erbacher: Does this mean I have to go back and listen to that cringeworthy episode?

Scott Trickett: No, no, no. So let's not focus on episode one, but just the early days. I want to, like I said, bring Robbo in a Facts in the Haystack segment back. And, you know, like I said, let's catch up with Tim. Let's find out what he's doing post his life, his post-parkrun life. Cool. Sounds good. Because, you know, that's going to be awesome. So if Mel and Ollie will ever have us back, I've spoken to Obi. He's in. I've spoken to Robbo. I've spoken to Robbo. He's in. So if they have us back. And then we'll get out the final top three from you. Okay.

Melissa Erbacher: I will rack my brains and I will go through all the memories and see what I can come up with.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, good, good. Okay. Well, let's wrap up that segment, Mel, and let's move, to another segment that we'll have one week only that won't take off, but we hope it will. No, no, don't call them the one week only ones.

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Melissa Erbacher: I think we need to throw the challenge out to Mel.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, we always do that, but they never do it. They never take it up. But you and I have been talking about doing another podcast and it's like, bad life advice because we've had lots of experience with that the last couple of years.

Melissa Erbacher: But I thought about doing it. Scotty and Mel get train wrecked or something like that.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, so listen and keep checking your parkrun feeds for the parkrun. Keep checking your podcast feeds for that when that drops. So we won't do a segment on that. But we wanted to bring back the idea of like when we started it was parkrun adventurers and You could have an adventure at a different event, which has become the norm, or you could have an adventure at home. Hello, Ollie. Like there is an opportunity if you're going back to your home event because you love it every week to have an adventure there. 100%.

Melissa Erbacher: There's no reason adventures can still not happen at home.

Scott Trickett: So whether this maybe could become a monthly challenge for the hosts to promote or just, you know.

Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, I mean, they do Bingoe cards and stuff and they come up with a whole bunch of challenges for Streaky September still. Love that they've kept up with Streaky September and there are people still out there doing that. I did start that this year. I don't know if you got involved, Scotty, but I got through day four before I broke my streak.

Scott Trickett: Oh, well done. Four's pretty good. I know where you're at, so that's pretty good. Look, I didn't take it up because I knew I wouldn't do it this year, but But it's funny, it's like I'm almost, I'm running every day at the moment. So if we'd done a streaky October or streaky November, I'd be good.

Suzanne: A stroktober. Stroktober, no.

Scott Trickett: But we didn't, so let's not talk about that. So what's your adventure? What's the challenge for our listeners to have an adventure this week or next week or any time in the future?

Melissa Erbacher: Yes, and we should take up the challenge too and we should try it ourselves. So, yeah, that's how this segment works is the people on the podcast throw out the challenge to the listeners and we want you guys to go and do it. You don't have to report back. We know not all of you are very good with the email or the messaging and I'm just as bad as everybody else. You know, when I listen to the podcast, I'm usually in my car driving and – not in a situation to write an email and every time I think oh yeah I'll get in touch and I'll say this and blah blah and then the podcast finishes and I keep driving and then I get home and I completely forget so no guilt from this direction so the challenge is that you need to identify someone. This is not a stalking thing, but just at parkrun this weekend, see somebody across in the crowd that you've never spoken to before and go and have a chat to them. Because the thing is, if you've been doing this a little while, if you've been parkrunning for a little while, chances are you've met quite a few people either through volunteering or through seeing them on the course and you've had a chat with them afterwards and And you tend to gravitate towards the people that you already know or you've already spoken to and you check in with them. But there comes a point where you stop, you know, introducing yourself to new people that you aren't familiar with. So I think we need to go back to that and we need to introduce ourselves to more people. So that's the challenge for this week.

Scott Trickett: The classic to... you know, exacerbate that social anxiety that we've all got. Force your way into that conversation, you know, with the new clique. But we want to break up those cliques and really we want to make new friends, don't we, Mel?

Melissa Erbacher: Or we want to add to the cliques. Yeah. We want to embrace everybody, basically. And yeah, it can be really intimidating if you're a brand new person and you see all these groups of people standing around talking like they've been friends for years, probably because they have by now. And it can be really, yeah, tricky for those people to approach. So why not you in those groups turn around and look out and see who's not standing talking to anyone and go and talk to them?

Scott Trickett: Yeah, I think that's a great challenge. So I was going to, You know, don't go up to the Event Director or Run Director and tell them everything that's wrong with their course or tell them, have they tried this? I think it's a bit long because my work – That's a challenge for another day. Don't be that guy. That's not my challenge. Yeah, I'm going to stick with your challenge. I think it's a great challenge. I can't top it. So let's just – Keep it as one challenge for this week.

Melissa Erbacher: And if you do want to share the outcome, please do send an email to parkrunadventurers@gmail.com or drop a Facebook message to the guys. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

Scott Trickett: I love the Facebook post on Saturday morning that goes crazy. Share a photo.

Melissa Erbacher: Yeah. Sorry, we're not going to read out any of Dazza's Cafe posts from the weekend because Scotty and I aren't very active on the socials. So we're going to leave that to Mel and Ollie and there will be no Obis awarded. Sorry.

Scott Trickett: Yep. Remember that. We're the fill-ins.

Melissa Erbacher: We're not doing a very good job.

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Scott Trickett: We're just fill-ins, but we've managed to give you an hour-long episode and we're going to wrap it up now. Mel, it's I love it. I love podcasting with you. It's great to be back.

Melissa Erbacher: It has been very fun, Scotty. Thank you.

Scott Trickett: Yeah. So if Mel and Ollie do want to have us come back, you know, that reunion idea, I think it's a keeper.

Melissa Erbacher: Okay.

Scott Trickett: Just not in the next couple of weeks or months or whatever because I'm exhausted from this.

Melissa Erbacher: Hey, we've got Ugly Christmas Singlet or Shirt Day coming up and that's going to be huge. It's going to consume all my energies and time. Yeah.

Scott Trickett: Good-o. Mel, have a wonderful time at Kawana this week. I will do so. Volunteering, running, walking. Be the parkwalker. Maybe. Yeah, put on that vest. Get another challenge up. Whatever it is. Be that friendly face.

Melissa Erbacher: Look, what I can guarantee you is I will wear that neon and I will eat that cake.

Scott Trickett: Okay, good, good.

Melissa Erbacher: And I hope, I know you don't usually go for the cake, but I hope you get to eat something sweet that you do like. And I look forward to seeing the photo of the crazy hat that you come up with.

Scott Trickett: Yeah, well, don't get too excited about that because it could just be a beanie at this stage. But I'll try my best to have it.

Melissa Erbacher: A beanie's crazy in the Queensland weather right now. Yeah, well, there you go.

Scott Trickett: Pretend I'm in Queensland for the day. Let's wrap it up. Thanks, Mel. See you all whenever.

Melissa Erbacher: See ya.

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