Episode 200 - Beau Miles

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Welcome

00:00:13Scott Trickett: welcome to the parkrun adventurers podcast episode 200 that's it Mel when I used to edit we'd sometimes insert sound effects but now you just bring them yourself Love it. Did you like my...

00:00:34Melissa Erbacher: I sometimes insert sound effects. There was one last week. Was there one last week or was it the week before? I don't know, but sometimes I insert sound effects.

00:00:46Scott Trickett: A great response to episode 199. I haven't listened yet, but it is on my list. I think you do really well with co-hosts named Scott. So that's why I'm calling myself Scott for episode 200.

00:01:03Melissa Erbacher: That's why it's not, you're not going back, harking back to episode one days?

00:01:09Scott Trickett: Yes. Yes, I am. Because you set me a task before joining you for this episode. I set you both a task. Yeah, we both did it. We went back and listened to episode one. Which, I think for me, it had been four years since I'd heard it. I remember listening to it a few times early on, because we were nervous. We wanted to get it right. We wanted to make sure what we were putting out there, I would be proud of it representing us and us, you know, parkrun. And when I listened to it, it was quite jarring, wasn't it? That opening... Sounded very formal. You called me Scott. Tim called me Scott.

00:01:53Melissa Erbacher: Yes. Well, you know, it wasn't until I think we had Robbo on in episode three or something like that. And straight off the bat, he was calling you Scotty, Scotty, Scotty. And after we'd recorded that interview, I was like, are you okay with that? He's just calling you Scotty. And like, it's very

00:02:13Scott Trickett: informal and you're like yeah all my friends call me Scotty and so that's when I decide oh well that's it I'm not calling you Scott anymore yeah I think we've had this conversation before every time I hear the name Scott I feel like I'm getting in trouble from my mum I'm listening back to that episode that's what it felt like it felt like you were angry with me Tim was being very professional and like I've done something wrong to him I was like what you know

00:02:41Melissa Erbacher: Well, the thing is, you should have started out with saying, call me Scotty, you know, because I don't just give people nicknames. And we didn't know each other very well back then. You know, that was right at the proper beginning. And yeah, we hadn't had that many actual conversations. We'd spoken online via messages and things like that. But

00:03:04Scott Trickett: actual voice conversations had been fairly limited to that point so it was um whole new world so for episode 200 we're taking a trip down memory lane um it's it's it's an episode for the our hardcore listeners our real parkrun adventurers so if you're tuning in for the first time if you've just if you haven't been to parkrun for six weeks And you've decided, oh, I'll try this parkrun podcast. With episode 200. Yeah, with episode 200. Because we're going to sort of deconstruct how we got to episode 200. We're going to go through all those machinations, aren't we, Mel?

00:03:44Melissa Erbacher: We are, we are. And what better time because at the end of episode one, we actually said, oh, this is the episode where we're going to look back. You know, when we get to 100 episodes or 200 episodes, we're going to look back at this one. And what did we say? I'm pretty sure we said we were going to cringe.

00:04:01Scott Trickett: Yeah. Yeah.

00:04:02Melissa Erbacher: Hopefully we were going to laugh. Yeah. So let's start there, shall we, Scotty? We did both listen to the episode. What was your overall impression apart from, you know, things were formal and so on?

00:04:18Scott Trickett: So I started off cringing. We talked about that jarring. We didn't seem to vibe as well as I think we do now. And it just seemed like we were both pretty nervous and I said the sound quality was terrible. So if we take it back, I was working at SBS. Yeah. I was in a professional radio studio. I thought it sounded good. I'm now sitting in my study. I actually had to go down to the shed. I'd packed away my USB headset now. It's how long it had been between using it. But yeah, I think the sound quality is so much better.

00:04:53Melissa Erbacher: Well, we were recording via different methods back then too.

00:04:58Scott Trickett: We were, yeah.

00:04:58Melissa Erbacher: We were using Skype, weren't we?

00:05:01Scott Trickett: We were, yeah.

00:05:02Melissa Erbacher: And we were each recording our own audio separately. I was using a Tascam, which is... which actually is one of the things that we used at palm20 earlier this year. So it's not a terrible piece of equipment, but it's just different and a different microphone into that. And then I was downloading my audio of that and actually Adam was doing it because I was completely technologically... What's the word? I don't know. I was a big newbie. And so he was just taking the audio off for me and emailing it to me. And I was then emailing it to you. And you were putting the files together. Very, very clunky, old school style. But it was only four years ago.

00:05:53Scott Trickett: So I reckon even if you go back, where was the podcast landscape four years ago? I think it's probably hard for us to comment because we're sort of in it. But I certainly know when we launched, we were the only parkrun podcast. Now we've been joined by With Me Now, who we kind of joined them. We've got free weekly timed. There's a new one called the 930 Club or something. I haven't checked that out. Have you?

00:06:19Melissa Erbacher: Not yet. It's on my list. But I haven't had a lot of time to be listening to podcasts lately. So I haven't listened to the last several episodes of adventurers myself either. I do generally listen back after just so I can make sure that the edit didn't go badly. But I haven't even had the time to do that.

00:06:39Scott Trickett: So that's a different landscape. And just podcasts in general. I think I have... more conversations or more recommendations from friends and colleagues about, oh, you should listen to this podcast. They seem to have...

00:06:52Melissa Erbacher: They're a lot more mainstream, aren't they?

00:06:54Scott Trickett: Yeah. And I think we could probably take some credit globally. Let's take some credit. I know our downloads don't reflect that, but I think it's just a general feeling that we were at the front of that wave. Yeah.

00:07:10Melissa Erbacher: I certainly do know there's a lot of our listeners who never really listened to podcasts before us. And now they do. They listen to a whole swag of different things, not just parkrun themed or running podcasts. They listen to all sorts of stuff. So we, yeah, we can absolutely take some credit for increasing the listenership of podcasts in the world in general.

00:07:33Scott Trickett: Yeah, my other takeaway is that you have to invest in a podcast too. So that first episode, you're never going to connect with the presenters. Like all good podcasts, you need to invest a couple of episodes before you judge them. And I think this is a really hard thing. So you're looking for a podcast to listen to. You're looking at the album art. You listen to the first two or three minutes. And if you don't get a good vibe, you probably ditch it. And that's really hard to overcome. Luckily, we relied on the parkrun connection to drag a few people in. And I think in that first episode, it was really parkrun-y. We spoke to Liv Coop. She was launching Sirromet, which was a bit exciting at the time. We had Tim on and we had this idea that we were going to get him on regularly. So you were going to get this regular influx of parkrun news and insights.

00:08:25Melissa Erbacher: And we did. He was on regularly in the first year or so.

00:08:29Scott Trickett: Yeah. But then parkrun grew and there were so many more ways to get the news and information. And one way was through our roving reports, which we know and love now.

00:08:39Melissa Erbacher: Everything's grown, hasn't it? That's a lot. When I heard the voices, and yes, I agree that very formal, but also I think I sounded like a baby. I sounded so much younger. But your voice hasn't changed, Scotty. You haven't aged at all. You were very confident and very comfortable and, yeah, it's no different now.

00:09:04Scott Trickett: Good. Well, I can tell you that I have aged. But it's good to know that my voice hasn't, if that's a thing.

00:09:14Melissa Erbacher: Yeah. Oh, but I do feel like we spoke really fast. I'm sure we don't speak that fast now.

00:09:22Scott Trickett: I didn't pick up on that, but I'm naturally a very slow talker, which we know over four years. If you guys have been joining us for four years, you know my style drives people mad.

00:09:34Melissa Erbacher: I think I've probably slowed down as well.

00:09:37Scott Trickett: To match me.

00:09:38Beau Miles: Yeah.

00:09:39Melissa Erbacher: to match you but probably to a certain extent because I maybe I'm I'm thinking my answers through more or people are asking me questions that I don't know the answers to straight off the bat so I'm formulating the answers as I go along see I just did it there there was a bit of a pause while I was trying to figure out what I was going to say there was there was um have you got any stats for me are you going to surprise me with any stats over the past 200 episodes Oh, no. No?

00:10:07Scott Trickett: Okay.

00:10:09Melissa Erbacher: Am I going to disappoint you with not providing any stats? Maybe I should have done that. I should have gone through and collated how many interviews we've done, how many roving reports we've had. You know, I did start creating a document where I was, and because we do have the run sheets, the various iterations of the run sheets over the years, we have access to all that information. It's just not collated in any kind of user-friendly stati type spreadsheet, which I did actually create a spreadsheet to start doing that. And I think I got through about the first 50 episodes of logging all the information, but it's a time intensive task and it's not going to benefit anyone except me and my own knowledge and having access to it. So

00:10:59Scott Trickett: At the end of the day, who cares? Project for another day. And it would be a shame. So I could log in and see how many downloads we've had. But we've changed hosting providers. We used to release on SoundCloud. And in the early days, we had quite a few people accessing it through SoundCloud. And then we ditched that. So I've lost all those stats. I can't even tell you how many downloads we've had.

00:11:21Melissa Erbacher: No.

00:11:22Scott Trickett: It's been a lot. More than I ever thought.

00:11:26Melissa Erbacher: Yes, yes. Well, I think, and I've said it before, I would have been happy if we only ever had, you know, 10 listeners. The idea of having 100 listeners was amazing and we exceed that, so very happy.

00:11:41Scott Trickett: It's a lot of work for 10 listeners, Mel.

00:11:43Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, well, it's a labour of love, isn't it, Scotty? Nobody makes podcasts because, you know, you certainly wouldn't make them for money. Well, maybe some people do. Well, I think a lot of people do now.

00:12:00Scott Trickett: Do they? Yeah, I think there's the Patreon model that works really well if you've got a whole heap of listeners and you're providing a genuine service, I think. Yeah, you can make money from these things. We could have advertising. I mean, we did at one point. Remember, Netflix came after us. Did they? I remember it differently.

00:12:22Melissa Erbacher: Did they come after us so much as we invited them to come after us and it was crickets? Yes.

00:12:30Scott Trickett: Yeah, I can't remember. It was a long time ago. But I mean, we've had heaps of approaches from commercial partners and we've just said no. We are not going to compromise our beliefs and our values to kowtow to some corporate giant. So we just said no.

00:12:44Melissa Erbacher: Also, we're not very good at selling things.

00:12:48Scott Trickett: Well, actually we are. How many of those singlets did we sell?

00:12:53Melissa Erbacher: sold quite a few didn't didn't have to sell those they just flew off the shelves so um yeah but that's everybody wants an Ugly Christmas Singlet that's a different thing looking forward to the 2020 version it's going to be cool as well But back to the episode, Scotty. Yep. What else can we peel back the curtain and let people know about? Well, we started, we were talking about what we did on Christmas Day 2015. Doesn't that seem like an age ago?

00:13:27Scott Trickett: We went to parkrun. It feels like 2015 since I've been to parkrun at the moment.

00:13:35Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, well, it does a little bit. But even you did the Whitsunday Double over that Christmas period. You did Airlie Beach parkrun and then Hamilton Island. That's very, yeah, like the adventures that we used to have. It was good to go back and just listen to at that moment in time what we had been up to. And I've thought about this a few times over the course of the years. And I don't want to be really morbid, but if something were to happen to me, it has occurred to me that my boys, as they grow up, they would have access to, you know, four and a half years of me chatting on a parkrun podcast. Yes, okay, the content would be about parkrun, but if they wanted to, they could listen to their mum, you know. That's not morbid.

00:14:27Scott Trickett: I mean, the idea of you passing away is morbid, but that's actually nice, isn't it?

00:14:32Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, it is. That's what I mean. Like it's a nice thought that if they wanted to find out more about me or how I was, if they didn't remember me and things like that, yeah. Think about random things like that. Not that I have no intention of passing away. I just wanted to state that fact. It's just, yeah, sometimes the brain goes places. And, yeah, it's nice to have this audio diary almost every week up until recently for the last four and a half years. Yeah.

00:15:10Scott Trickett: Yeah. And I don't think the podcast – has changed all that much or it's definitely evolved like we went through phases of trying ideas and this year it's evolved a little bit more but essentially you can go back to listen to episode one and it still feels familiar to a certain extent doesn't it it did to me yeah um well I mean I guess it feels familiar because we we lived it we were there but I guess we need to know this from our listeners

00:15:39Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, maybe, maybe. Things that stood out to me, though, you know, we mentioned we were up to 150 events in Australia and we were talking about reaching 200 parkrun events by the end of the year just in this country. And, you know, now we're pushing 400 and the growth did slow down a little bit, but it's still funny to see these frozen moments in time almost about where the world was and where it is now.

00:16:09Scott Trickett: Well, you were a territory director. I was a potential Event Director of Studley parkrun. Tim was talking about launching into America, and now he's assumed this role of strategic director of Asia Pacific.

00:16:23Melissa Erbacher: Kasia was only a single-digit age.

00:16:27Scott Trickett: She was. She was.

00:16:29Melissa Erbacher: I can't remember if she was eight or if she was seven turning eight.

00:16:34Scott Trickett: Do the quick maths. She was seven.

00:16:38Melissa Erbacher: Well, in 2016. She was seven. January 2016. She was seven.

00:16:42Scott Trickett: Yep. Let's go revisit one of our favourite guests. We've got Beau Miles joining us. And then we'll come back and reminisce some more. Is that what we should do?

00:16:52Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, I think so. And when you say revisit one of our guests, we're not playing an old episode. Oh, no. Beau's joining us fresh.

00:16:59Scott Trickett: Yeah. He's got a new thing coming. So let's hear all about it.

Interview Beau Miles — Filmmaker, adventurer and academic; returning guest, previously interviewed in episode 129

00:17:13Melissa Erbacher: As we just mentioned in our intro, we're very excited to have back one of our fave interviews of the last, well, it's now 200 episodes of the podcast. We last spoke to him in episode 129, which came out in September 2018. So what better time than to check back in with the wonderful Beau Miles than right now. Beau, welcome back to the podcast.

00:17:39Beau Miles: Yeah, thanks very much.

00:17:41Melissa Erbacher: Now, the last time we spoke to you was shortly after A Mile an Hour came out, which screened at the Run Nation Film Festival back in 2018. It's got some good play over the years and it's still an awesome watch. What have you been doing since then?

00:18:00Beau Miles: Since we last chatted, A Mile an Hour, which was the film that I think you folks picked up me or found out about, I suppose, my existence. You got in touch and the film itself went out online and sort of sat dormant for a while until I released, in the most part, I released a film called Run the Line in late last year. And that was, I ran an old railway line close to where I lived. And I must admit, I didn't expect it to be such a boom in a sense. And online it went bonkers. And a mile an hour has since picked up hugely because of it. So I suppose in short, the film career has gone a bit wider since I suppose we last chatted in that a few more people from around the world have cottoned on to a couple of good films out there online. Yeah. getting lots of attention and having lots of chats with people all over the place. So it's great. So, yeah, I'm just knuckling and doing lots of film work and trying to stay fit and be a new dad. So life's pretty full.

00:19:00Scott Trickett: You've got a new film coming out, Beau, which we're going to get to. But I want to go back to A Mile An Hour because I recently had a mate try it. And so I followed his journey. He was inspired by you and he did it a couple of weeks ago in lockdown. Have you had many people reach out to you saying that they had a go and have they shared their experiences with you going through that?

00:19:23Beau Miles: Yeah, it's been remarkable, Scotty. It's kind of swept, you know, it's fast approaching a couple of million views on YouTube. And I get... it's either one or two up to five a day. People, uh, sending me an email or an Insta something saying, Hey Beau, I'm trying this in a weird, wonderful way, you know, from university students to people in, you know, a whole street did it in the UK and, uh, the surf lifesaving clubs in Queensland are trying it. And, uh, all over the place you know I was it was really quite tickled pink when I uh heard this morning that the story of the 100 year old guy in um in the UK you know he's doing 100 laps of his backyard with his walker and he you know he wanted to raise a thousand pounds and and 30 million pounds later um he's become a global phenomena and I thought isn't that just wonderful that these little and these little stories, they really resonate with people because it's so doable. And, yeah, so a mile an hour kind of has resonated with a bunch of people and there's heaps of folks doing it.

00:20:24Scott Trickett: Yeah. You should have trademarked it or something or sort of framed it around some sort of charity so people can support it that way. Or are you just happy that people are having a crazy idea you had?

00:20:35Beau Miles: Yeah, that's right. Well, look, someone else said that too. And look, I get a lot of people ask if they can do it, and I think absolutely. This is just some harebrained idea. There's been a fair few out there that do it, and there's certainly no mention of Beau, and it's a carbon copy of what I've done. And I thought, oh, maybe you should probably mention where you got the idea from. But you know what? I suppose you've kind of half made it or made a good idea when people start to copy it, so that's a good thing.

00:21:03Melissa Erbacher: Okay, so what I want to know is we actually have three Channel 5 News crew members here on the pod, our regular roving reporters, participating in a bit of a challenge this weekend. They're all doing 42.2 kilometres over 42 hours or within 42 hours. They've got a little bit longer than just the 24 to do it and people can do it in whatever way, shape or form they They wish, you know, you could do 10 kilometres in the first hour and then give yourself a break, et cetera, et cetera. Lyndell has chosen, in an homage to you, to do it amidst a whole bunch of other errands and things on her to-do list. Are you more proud that people are getting out there and doing the one mile an hour or the running part, or are you just really happy that people are finally getting things done?

00:21:54Beau Miles: I think it's a bit of both in a sense in that, yeah, I'd never done that kind of combination before because, you know, there's been many reasons why I did a mile an hour, why the idea came. And I've been, you know, spruiking the idea that I sat on my backside getting fat, writing my PhD. So I just wanted to get the heck out of the house and go for a run and do all the things that I hadn't had the time to do whilst writing. But a fair bit of it too is the fact that running is pretty useless to me now when I think of running. And I know that I'm saying this probably to the wrong crowd, but I sometimes think I can either go out and clear blackberries for half an hour and sweat my backside off and do it with a bush hook and, you know, a shovel or a rake or something. And it's an awesome workout and I get something done. Whereas if I go for a 5K run, I come back and I'm sweaty and I've got to wash that shirt and there's nothing that's been done. You know, I've just plugged away at my heart and my legs for a little while, which is excellent, but it doesn't give me that sense of satisfaction sometimes than a 5K. K equivalent workout in the paddock. And so I suppose a mile an hour is that perfect combination of getting a lot of things done and sort of just ticking along at the same time with your legs. And that was one of the ideas. So I'm enamored by both. I think they're fantastic. And it's great that people are doing it.

00:23:18Scott Trickett: From there, you moved on to Run the Line, the absolute standout from the Run Nation Film Festival last year. Did you get as much feedback about that idea? Did you have anybody else trying to run the line around the world?

00:23:31Beau Miles: Yeah. Yeah, lots, actually. And I've had so many invites from train buff type people all over the world saying, hey, I live close to an old train line that goes places. And uh which tends to be the case across the entire world you know um at least six six continents worth there's been people send all sorts of wonderful ideas and so it certainly hasn't caught on as much because it's a bit more of a long-winded idea and um not as fun I don't think there's that sense of fun as much uh carrying a shovel for 45 kilometres isn't all that fun either so I suppose people have seen that as going oh well maybe maybe that's not my thing but Yeah, lots of feedback from all over the place of people telling me things and telling me I shouldn't have jumped fences. And in America, you would have got shot and all that sort of interesting stuff.

00:24:16Melissa Erbacher: Now, you did mention you became a dad last year. Little baby May came along in October. How has that changed how you perceive and how you plan adventures?

00:24:32Beau Miles: Well, I suppose I've been on the back burner of long-scale adventures now for 10 years anyway. And so maybe it was always a positioning. You know how you reach a time in your life when you never want to live in a share house or you reach a time in your life when you don't need to go to a nightclub or a pub anymore. And so I suppose in many respects I've reached an age where my new adventures have a lot to do with the family and how I can do that in a more personal way. So backyard adventuring and doing a lot more stuff close to home. And look at this whole lockdown thing too. And we talked briefly off air before you started recording about perils of being locked down. And it sort of hasn't been that way for me. I've loved... being here on the farm and not spending 8 or 10 or 15 hours a week of travelling. And so whilst I don't mind a little bit of travel and listening to the radio and thinking about the world when I whizz past in a car, I'm happy to lose it because, gee, it's nice just to maximise my time here in one spot. And in some respects I see adventure that way now and may be I suppose she can tell me when she starts to talk if she doesn't want to do it. But otherwise, I'm going to drag her kicking and screaming all over the place for a while, I think.

00:25:46Scott Trickett: So we did talk off air how we're all coping in this COVID-19 lockdown. You're going okay. You're getting used to it.

00:25:54Beau Miles: Yeah, I love it. I must admit, I've always loved solo travel. And so in many respects, this plays into my personality. I love people, but I love going away from people, I think. And so I'm having a wonderful time here. And like I say too, I've got a little five acre farmlet and it's got lots of projects. A lot of them are still half finished and they remain unfinished probably for years too. And I just tinker along with them and I'm immensely satisfied by that. And I just love it. I love being here and not going places to the point where I'm about to cut a 400-metre track around the paddock, you know, through a few little obstacles and around the barn and a few other bits and pieces. And I think that might keep me pretty happy in terms of my running.

00:26:39Melissa Erbacher: Do you have any advice for people who perhaps don't have five acres to play around in about how they might be able to stay curious and have adventures at home during this current situation?

00:26:53Beau Miles: Yeah, I've been asked that a bunch, Mel. And look, I realised too just how lucky I am. And I get flack a bit for that, you know. I never mention in a mile an hour how lucky I am to have the barn and to have the house and whatnot. And And the backstory of that is that the farm when I bought it was full of blackberries and it was barely livable, the little shack, and the barn was falling down and whatever. But it was still an amazing place with amazing bones. And I know a lot of people don't have this kind of playground in a sense, this little five-acre thing that they can manipulate and play with and make their physical outlet and their emotional outlet and their – heck theoretical outlet you know I wrote my phd here looking out the window and so um my advice to people when they've asked is that well it's I stand from a pretty bad position in that I'm not sure how it would be you know someone locked in a in an apartment in Melbourne I think I would probably go a And yet I've always said that I would be a good person to go to jail because I'd always come up with something. I've never been bored as an adult. And with a vibrant mind, if you've got good enough food to feed a vibrant mind, then you'd never be bored. But I've never really tested myself on that. So I'm sort of speaking out of turn. But when I do hear from people saying, how are you coping with this whole lockdown thing? I say, look, I've got it good. And for you, you've just got to think creatively and you've got to think that this is not forever either. Yeah, you've got to be creative. You've got to do the dishes with one leg or, you know, put a chin-up bar above every door. I don't know, but you've got to think creatively.

00:28:36Scott Trickett: Yeah. I think for me, Beau, I'm just missing the social connections. I think I've got enough to fill my time, but it's just the social interaction with my mates every week at parkrun and my running group and so on and so forth that I really miss. We're all different.

00:28:54Beau Miles: Yeah, and that's a really good insight, Scotty. And look, I suppose because I have Helen and little May and a little six-month-old child, it's so fascinating to me because... she thinks a piece of cardboard is the most amazing thing on the planet, you know. And so I watch her playing with that piece of cardboard and that's like watching TV. So I suppose I work a bit differently in that that's probably my social hit. I don't need it as much as what others do. And yet I reckon you're right, mate. I will get, yeah, I really do enjoy having good conversations with people at the moment, probably more than I ever have. And so I'm with you. Yeah.

00:29:30Scott Trickett: So you're having lots of conversations about your new film that is just released, like literally just released, The Human Bean. I'm a lover of baked beans too, Beau, so I want to know where the inspiration... Well, maybe start with what's the new movie about and where did the inspiration come from?

00:29:48Beau Miles: So it's called The Human Bean and it's about to be launched on YouTube in a couple of days' time, around the start of May. And so... The idea came that I read Steinbeck's Tortilla Flat. And halfway through Tortilla Flat, they talk about a bunch of kids, nine kids to the one mother, who she's very poor. She can only get her hands on a lot of beans. And she feeds with her and her mother. They feed these kids beans directly off the floorboards of the house. So they get a big ladle, a big plate, vat of beans bubbling away on the stove and they just pour them straight onto the floor these kids come from everywhere and they just eat directly off the floor and it was such a great scene you know um steinbeck wrote it so beautifully and I remember reading it thinking gee that's a That's a great scene. You know, I'm in that scene and I thought very quickly and very easily, I thought, oh, I like beans and these kids are really healthy and they're okay. What if I just ate my beans, ate beans for a bunch of time and would I be as healthy and as vibrant as these kids on tortilla flat? So... That's what I did. I ate my body weight in beans and the film tracks my sort of 40 days of peril, you know, the things that I miss and my running goes to rubbish and I become cranky and irritable and horrible to live with and my teeth and hair becomes excellent. But otherwise things are pretty grim there for a while.

00:31:18Melissa Erbacher: Can you give us a little sneaky peek at, I mean, you talk about the perils, your perils, but everybody who is living with you, how about their perils?

00:31:27Beau Miles: Good point, Mel. And so in the credits, I try and thank everyone that I was around during that 40-day period because I became a bit of a crank. In saying that too, I sort of play on it a bit. It was all very ordinary in some ways. But what it did do staggeringly is it made me very plain and ordinary and I lost my personality a bit too. So whilst I was probably okay to be around, I certainly wasn't very fun and I was a little bit more short-tempered and I didn't have much humour about me, you know. So you just become a bit of a lesser human in a sense, even though my hair and teeth and weight and I felt wonderfully lean and crisp and really good in a sense, but I had bugger all energy and my personality kind of reflected that. So poor old Helen and the people I worked with had to suffer a bit.

00:32:22Melissa Erbacher: Oh, yeah, and I was thinking there were other kinds of perils that came with eating nothing but beans.

00:32:27Beau Miles: Ah, yes, well, many people have thought that, but I'm very windy anyway, so it was just really... Oh, no, that's a lie. It did increase. It really did. Let's not deny it. So there's a little bit of that in the film. I didn't want to over-exaggerate too much.

00:32:46Melissa Erbacher: And how did you, I mean, we're probably delving a bit too much into the detail of the film and people just really need to go and watch it, but I'm keen to know how you arrived at the quantity or the time frame.

00:32:58Beau Miles: So what I thought is that I've been doing adventures my whole life that really it's very basic to just go places in a sense. If you've got a good physical body and you've got good carbohydrate foods and gels and hydrolytes and all the wizard stuff that we can go so far on that as if you strip that all back and you go back to one very basic diet, you know, considered superfood like beans? How much is Beau capable of? More so, where does my journey take me that's not anywhere physical? Because this is as internal as it gets, you know, and it's a very felt response, very embodied. So in many respects, it was about that. It was about feeling things that I couldn't see and about an exploration of my internal self that wasn't just theoretical but very, in a sense, practical, to the point where my heart and my legs and my hair and my eyes and my fingernails, everything becomes beans. So I thought, I'm just going to eat my body weight. You know, every cell is going to be impregnated by a legume of some kind. And so it took me 40 days, and the idea was that I'm just going to eat 200 tins of beans until I get to my body weight. And, of course, my body weight reduced as I continued the experiment, so I ended up eating 191 tins. And it took 40 days, and on the final day I ran – 50K ultra marathon and first 20Ks was fairly bad. I thought, gee, how the heck am I going to do the next 30? And then I just plateaued and it was, I was fine. You know, I was kind of fine.

00:34:31Scott Trickett: Okay. Well, that was my next question. How did your running suffer throughout it? But obviously... It did okay. You did an ultra at the end of it.

00:34:40Beau Miles: Yeah. Not only was I slow, I was very underwhelmed as a runner. I just plugged away. I've been running forever, so I can just tap into a cadence and away you go. I knew I'd bottomed out on any kind of glycogen in the muscles about the... Oh, heck, probably before I started, to be honest. But And the run itself was very, you know, very demanding for the first 22 Ks and then a middle 10 kilometres, which you kind of just got to get through, which was flat tram tracks, really slippery, slidey stuff through forest, thick forest. And then it just sort of is a nice descent all the way back down into Warburton. But look, in terms of the training for it, it was, you know, I've gone from a high carbohydrate diet my whole life, essentially, you know, lots of bread and rice and pasta and oats and All the things that just sort of load me up. And so to go cold turkey on that stuff and then continue running, and I didn't do a lot of training because I just sort of didn't have the motivation to. Yeah, I felt rubbish. And I... it gave me an insight into how and why people probably don't start running at later life because when you go from zero to that, you know, the first run I took on beans, I felt horrible and I thought, gee, okay, I get it why people don't go running now because this is horrible in a very simplistic way.

00:36:01Scott Trickett: But you still love running, Beau, so let's address the elephant in the room as well. Okay. When are you going to get along to a parkrun?

00:36:07Beau Miles: So it's a very good question, and I have been asked many times, and I just haven't got around what I must admit. I suppose, and you can correct me here, I feel like I live vicariously through so many other parkrunners that I feel like I've done lots, but I just haven't. I haven't been to the actual organised thing. I think I did hear, I mentioned earlier that, I hit an age and it was like a bolt of lightning when I was about 27 that I would never live in a share house again. You know, it might have been a dishes episode or someone coming in late or not paying their rent or something. And in many respects, I kind of had that about 10 years ago in the States when I did lots of sort of pseudo competitive running. And I was just a bit sick of community running or running in a mob of people. I thought I just want to be by myself well and truly out there in the woods. And so... I'm not really into group runs, I must admit. But in saying that, my core running for the last two or three years has been with others because I'm lacking that motivation intrinsically to just go for a run. I'd rather use my energy elsewhere in some respects. And don't get me wrong, I love running. But that's a very long way to say why I haven't been for a parkrun yet. And you might be able to tell me, do you actually do? Are there parkruns out in the woods? Do you know if there's any like that?

00:37:30Scott Trickett: Oh, absolutely. We've got plenty of trail parkruns. There's a few around where you are.

00:37:36Beau Miles: Yep.

00:37:36Scott Trickett: And don't worry, we get the not running in group thing, um but parkruns aren't aren't mass participation events either are they no you could you could go to an event where there'd be 20 30 people yep um so it's very much running with just one or two if you're lucky yeah but it's all about um having a chat afterwards which I think you would excel at well yeah I don't know mate I reckon I save up my chats for podcasts and for two phone calls a week because I

00:37:40[crosstalk]

00:38:06Beau Miles: Yeah, people say that Beau loves a chat and I sometimes think, oh, maybe not, you know. I really like this because I think you two are great people but I'll be happy to just go my separate way now for two or three days and just go out and build things in the barn or in the paddock, you know. But I totally get it because I know that I do enjoy these things. I've been guiding to the same place now for 20 years. I've done this stretch of Murray River for 20-odd years, and I always think in the lead-up to it, oh, God, I'm doing this same stretch of river again. And yet I know that when I get there, I bloody love it. I really do. And you're probably right. I would get down to a parkrun and love it because I do like runners and I like that they're my people.

00:38:47Melissa Erbacher: Okay, well, we're not going to put too much more of the hard sell on you. I will just say that it's not actually about the run. Scotty is talking about it being about the talking. Many people say it's about the coffee, parkrun is whatever you want it to be, really. Anyway, Beau, what I want to know is The Human Bean in the bag, done, just about to be released and undoubtedly another sensation. What's next?

00:39:13Beau Miles: Well, I've reached a stage in life where I have more footage in the can of, you know, things I've been up to for the last three or four years than I've almost got time to make. But look, I'm in partnership now with a really good filmmaker mate, Mitch Drummond. So him and I, we can toil away. And I tell you what, modern filmmaking now is liberated because with two or three people now and a good computer and good software and some good creativity, you can do an awful lot of stuff. So what's happening in the next few years is a lot of films coming out, hopefully, and I always think that a one-month film is going to be a one-month film, and it turns out to be two and a half months or ten weeks or six months. So probably not as many films as I think are going to come out, but there's certainly lots of good stories out there, including The Commute, Getting to Work, the full versions of that, and I've got some other building projects coming up and some sort of junk ideas that have been half shot. And I spent a night up at one of my big giant gum trees a month or two ago, and that was really fun. And, you know, that's a true little short film, Backyard Adventure, which was really quirky. So there's lots of stuff coming out. So sort of once a month on YouTube there should be something out.

00:40:29Scott Trickett: Great stuff, Beau. Thanks very much. Mel and I haven't seen this latest one, so we're looking forward to rushing off and watching it. I hope it achieves all the success that you dream of. And thanks for coming and joining us for a chat during lockdown.

00:40:46Beau Miles: Good on you, folks. Yeah, thanks very much. I promise to, within the next, let's say, six to 12 months, do a parkrun either with you folks or someone else. And, look, congratulations on all of these episodes too. I've only listened to a couple of them, but they were really good and I'm not much into podcasts, I must admit. I don't find the time much, but I've listened to a couple and you two are good eggs. So well done and I'll talk to you on your 400th or your 500th or something.

00:41:13Scott Trickett: Awesome. Thanks, mate.

00:41:14Beau Miles: See you.

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Roving reports & the Channel 5 News crew

Roving report Lyndell Murray — 42 in 42 challenge, reported from home in Queensland, not a parkrun event

00:41:36Lyndell Murray: G'day parkrun adventurers, it's Lyndell and it's Friday night, 1st of May. Tomorrow I'm about to embark on something that's a bit different to a parkrun. Tomorrow is parkrun day but I am having a crack at running 42km in 42 hours. Some of you may have seen the challenge on Facebook. I know TOC, fellow roving reporter, is also having a crack this weekend. Tomorrow I give it my best. I have decided to try and run 42Ks in about 20 to 21 hours. I'm going to start at 4 o'clock in the morning. Inspired by Beau Miles being interviewed on this very podcast. How awesome is that? Inspired by Beau, I have decided to split my 42Ks up into... more hopefully anyway more digestible chunks so I'm going to run approximately two a bit over two k's every hour for about 20 hours tomorrow so starting at four o'clock I'll finish either at 11 p.m or midnight tomorrow that's the plan oh look I thought it was a good idea at the time I I saw a Beau Miles movie a little while ago a couple years ago maybe whenever it came out and I just thought that is that's on my to-do list man I've got to do that one day because I'm a list person I've always got a to-do list I've always got stuff to do that I never get done and you know I'm up for a running adventure let's be honest so Tomorrow's the day that I give it a go and part of me is super, super excited and part of me is just crapping my dacks, to be honest. I don't know how it's going to go, but I'm really psyched to have you guys, the parkrun adventurers, by my side and I'll share the adventure with you as best I can. So I'll see you in the morning. Take care. Alrighty, parkrun adventurers, check in number one at parkrun time. It is about 20 past seven and I have just finished my fourth lap around the block. I've done about 8.6 kilometres at this stage. So I am on target running-wise. Job-wise, I have completed an online course online. I've stitched up my running gloves, so repaired them. They're looking all right for someone who's not much of a homebody or sewer. They're all right. They'll get me through another few winters, I reckon. And I've done my veggie prep for the dinner I'm going to cook later on in the slow cooker. So looking good job wise, I am about to get stuck into some really fun cleaning, cleaning doors. Yeah, it's all happening here today in 42Ks in 42 hours. Alrighty, parkrun adventurers, I've just done one of my 2K loops with a friend of the podcast, Tracey Wood. Tracy, how are you today?

00:44:49Tracey Wood: I'm absolutely stuffed, Lyndell. I'm 18Ks in and I'm feeling it. Maybe this was not a good idea after all.

00:44:56Lyndell Murray: Now, you're participating in the 42 in 42 as well. Tell us a little bit about that.

00:45:01Tracey Wood: Yes, that's right. I'm doing the 42 in 42, and I'm doing that with Cherie and Emma. They're both doing 10.6 each, and I've said I'll do the half by myself. So I've already run... 10km this morning with another friend, come over here to Lyndell's. We've just done a lap around the neighbourhood and here I am now and now I need to run home to finish it off.

00:45:28Lyndell Murray: Excellent, sounds like a bit of an adventure. Oh my god, yes.

00:45:33Tracey Wood: Yeah, so about 2km ago I sort of thought, yeah well maybe this wasn't a good idea but you know it's sort of the crazy ideas that we like to go with, isn't it? It's sort of the most fun and you go, yeah that was probably stupid but hey what the hell.

00:45:46Lyndell Murray: Well, it's done now. You can go home and have a coffee.

00:45:49Tracey Wood: I think I'd just like to go home and sit. As I was saying to you on the run, I just need a shower first and to get out of this blasting wind. It's just, oh my God, it's just really...

00:46:09Lyndell Murray: like flat lap pjs pjs sound great this wind is pretty full on I'm trying to ignore it but it's been windy my first lap was still but the rest of them have been windy as so anyway that's it from me for now I'll check in a bit later thanks Tracy, thanks for coming and running with me. Thanks Lyndell, all the best for your next 16 hours. Bye guys Okay, time to check in with the pod. I am at the 23 kilometre mark, so I'm over halfway. Still in good spirits. I've just gotten back from having a picnic with one of my friends. I'm allowed to now. This is a good thing. Our restrictions in Queensland ease to allow Two individual people to have a picnic together in a park in public. So I've done that. That was a late addition to my to-do list for 42 in 42. As well as that, I've made a lot of progress. The doors that I said I was going to clean are sparkling now. I have prepped some chocolate chip cookie dough for me to make into cookies a bit later. I have cleaned a couple of shelves of the pantry. They're looking pretty schmick. And I have washed some of the random containers that I found in the back of the pantry. Yeah, always fun. So much fun. I have also chucked on dinner. Dinner is cooking away in the slow cooker. Smelling pretty good. Yeah, and I don't know what else. I've started eating the giant cookie. So I bought this giant cookie. It's part of my task list is to eat a cookie that could probably... Probably sustain you for a week, I reckon. But I'm going to get through that today. I'm about a third of the way through. So I think maybe I will get back into that now. And from there, the next lot of fantastic cleaning that I'm doing is the fans in our house. You know how the fans always dirty on top? Yeah. I'm going to tackle them next. Clean the fans. Fun times. Fun times indeed. Alrighty parkrun adventurers, I'm heading out for my second last lap of the night. I've got about a parkrun to go before I finish my marathon in, it's going to be 20 hours. 42 in 42 is what I'm aiming to do and good news, I'm going to smash that. I'm a little bit ahead of where I was going to be so I'm going to finish up at 10 o'clock instead of 11 or midnight so that is good news, um I've smashed through my jobs I've um cooked dinner had dinner well I've had some dinner I've got some waiting for me to have a bit later probably with a nice glass of red I'd say some nice slow cooked beef with a glass of red wine is on the order clean the fans clean the pantry unstacked the dishwasher washed all the other stuff that doesn't go in the dishwasher what else have I done Mended a cardigan, scanned in some old photos. It's been a very productive day. And look, that's what this is all about, you know. Yeah, the whole thing is what can you achieve in 24 hours? It's been a very interesting process for me to just see that when you have the mindset of getting as much done as you can, in whatever time you have, you can get a lot done. I don't know whether it's sustainable permanently in life, but certainly maybe a little bit more focus at times could really just sharpen life a little bit maybe.

00:49:54Melissa Erbacher: Anyway, I don't know whether it's the sore legs talking or the

00:49:59Lyndell Murray: and sneaking in or whether that's actually real wisdom I don't know tomorrow we'll probably tell anyway um look I'm gonna leave it there for tonight that is me out for the parkrun adventurers and the Channel 5 News Crew um checking out from 42 and 42 Alrighty, the full list of what I did. I did an online course. I stitched up a pair of running gloves that I busted last winter, so it was about time I got to that. I cleaned all the internal doors that we have. There's 10 of them. I made chocolate chip cookie dough. Yeah, I didn't quite get to bake the actual cookies, but today's another day, right? I cleaned a couple of the shelves of our pantry and from there, washed all the containers that came out of the pantry with old stuff, you know, or nothing in it. That's a task in itself, really. I prepped and cooked dinner in the slow cooker. I had a picnic with a friend. That was amazing. I unpacked the dishwasher. I sorted through some old running clothes to donate some to charity and get rid of some of the other ones. I dusted the wine rack. That also gave me a chance to pick out a nice drop to have a celebratory drop with when I finished. I scanned in a bunch of old photos from when I started triathlon years ago. They were just sitting on a pin board in the spare room, so they'll be better off having a digital life. I cleaned the top of all the fans in our joint. I ate a giant cookie and I ran a marathon.

00:51:35Melissa Erbacher: Well done to Lyndell for taking on the 42 kilometres in 42 hour challenge and absolutely nailing it. I'm very impressed with the list of errands that she managed to run in that time period as well. So well done, Lyndell. What Lyndell didn't mention during her roving report is that she has used the challenge as a way to raise awareness and funds for the Women's Legal Service Queensland, who provide services to women and children fleeing domestic violence. So if anyone would like to help her in her efforts to raise money for that cause, please let us know and we will point you in the direction of how you can help.

00:52:18Scott Trickett: Well done, Lyndell. Yes, couldn't agree more. Popular, wasn't it, Mel? 42 in 42. Lots of people were doing it.

00:52:27Melissa Erbacher: It was. We also, as well as TOC, which we mentioned during the interview with Beau, which we mentioned in the interview with Beau, Dave also did it. He accidentally did it last weekend apparently as well. So he's gone out to do it again this weekend. But, yes, there's a very popular Facebook page with lots of likes doing the challenge this weekend. And I don't know, do you think it's indicative that – There's just such a void being left by parkrun that people are considering doing marathons just to fill their time. I'm not – I wasn't swayed. I couldn't even say that I was honestly tempted. I just sort of thought, wow, that's a lot of kilometres in a very short period of time.

00:53:13Scott Trickett: I think – what are we? We're six or seven weeks into this lockdown phase, and I think for a lot of people it's gone one of two ways. So you can work on your corona body – It just depends on what type of body you're after. For me, I've actually increased my running. I think I'm getting the mojo back. So I'm veering towards a summer corona body. Others may veer towards a winter corona body.

00:53:44Melissa Erbacher: Yes. See, so I am heading towards the hibernating mama bear kind of Corona body where there's a lot of chocolate. And I'm not proud to say probably more wine than there should be for having two small children at home. I'm not proud of it, like I said, but, you know.

00:54:05Scott Trickett: So there's a game we can play in this episode. Did Mel drink for the intro or did Mel drink for the outro? You choose, listeners. Are her words slurred in the outro or in the intro? There's a game you can play online after listening to this episode.

Social Adventurers

00:54:25Scott Trickett: But another game we played online, Mel. We got back into the routine. Look, I'm speaking like we do this all the time, like this we business. I know I'm just a ring in again. But we asked a question on social media and got some responses. This week.

00:54:41Melissa Erbacher: We did. And the question was in relation to we've been daydreaming about going back to parkrun and want to hear what other people would do too when they imagined if, you know, money was no object and time was no object and they could do any event in the world, in the world, and have post-parkrun brekkie or run or walk or jog or skip with whomever they want. Who would they choose? Where would they go? And why? Now, I think, Scotty, we should start off with your answer to this question. We got a lot on the Facebook as well, but I want to hear what you would do. Where would you go and who would you do it with?

00:55:26Scott Trickett: Yes, I think this is one of these questions where you've just got to go with your gut instinct. You can't overthink it. You can't try and come off as being some holier than thou, this saint of a person who's just wonderful. You just go with your gut instinct. So that's what I'm doing. So I'm selfishly going, Mel, to Canada. I haven't specifically pinpointed which event in Canada, but I think I'd like to do it when it's got some snow, it's quite picturesque, but it's not too cold that it hurts to run. So we might have to check in with our old mate Euan to let me know when that is. But I think I'm going to go to Canada to see some snow. And where I said that, you know, you could take it with a family member or a friend, which a lot of people commented on the Facebook they did. Or I thought some people might veer towards the celebrity route. And maybe the PSH is the obvious choice. who you would parkrun with and post parkrun with. But I asked a question of my mates this week, who's your quarantine foursome? So we got together and we named our, you know, if you're going to be locked away with someone, who would you prefer to be locked away with? So I'm going to take one of my quarantine foursome out on a parkrun with me.

00:56:43Melissa Erbacher: Okay.

00:56:44Scott Trickett: And I'm keeping it relevant to the podcast. So I've gone with Ricky Gervais. You know, he's a bit of an idol of mine. I famously dressed up as him at a parkrun anniversary nonsense thing that we used to do. I just think, you know, I agree with a lot of the things he comes out with. I think he'd always have something to say.

00:57:10Melissa Erbacher: Have you watched the new series of After Life yet?

00:57:13Scott Trickett: No, it completely slipped my radar, but I'm going to tune into it this week because, yeah, I'm one of those people that loved the first season of After Life, so I'm sure I'll love the second. So that's... And I think I've covered the who, where, why. I think he'd just be a great conversationalist. I think I could beat him in a sprint finish too. I think I've got a couple of years on him. I've chunked up a bit, but I think I've still got a couple of kilos advantage on him as well. So, yeah.

00:57:44Melissa Erbacher: Now, see, unless you know something I don't know or you haven't read the question correctly, we said any parkrunner. Is Ricky Gervais a registered parkrunner?

00:57:55Scott Trickett: Hitmail everyone he's a parkrunner.

00:57:59Lyndell Murray: Whether or not they're registered.

00:58:00Scott Trickett: Yeah, they just haven't registered yet.

00:58:04Melissa Erbacher: I like that take on it, Scotty. I'm going to use that in future.

00:58:07Scott Trickett: Okay. So who's yours? What's your answer?

00:58:10Melissa Erbacher: Okay, going with my gut, the first instinct answer that pops into my head is Cieszyn parkrun. We had Jakub on the show in the very first season of the parkrun adventurers podcast, and he told us all about this miraculous parkrun event that crosses the border between two countries, so you can get two countries in at the same time. And so that sold it for me. It's up in the mountains. It's, you know. Just ticks all the boxes.

00:58:43Scott Trickett: But do we know anybody who's actually done Cieszyn parkrun?

00:58:46Melissa Erbacher: Well, Jakub's done it.

00:58:48Scott Trickett: Well, he might be biased. Do we know anybody outside of the country manager?

00:58:53Melissa Erbacher: No, not personally, but that's kind of part of the allure. Like I don't need the reviews or the recommendations of a thousand different people who've all done it. I don't need to take the road most travelled or the parkrun most travelled. You know, if that were the rationale, then I would be heading to something somewhere more famous, I guess.

00:59:18Scott Trickett: I'm just playing devil. You know, it could be you could run alongside a dump, a tip. Yeah, you get to cross over countries, but that might have been lost in the detail.

00:59:30Melissa Erbacher: Well, I'm pretty sure Jakub wouldn't try to lead a society like that. He sold it to me when we had him on the pod in season one. So I'm still – that's stuck in my mind as a definite must-do bucket list type item. So that's where I'm going. Who am I going with? See, now you've opened up the world to me in terms of who I could actually go with. I was just – thinking somebody who's already registered but if I could pick someone who's not registered yet well then I think I would have to take Amy Poehler she she would be my she would be my guest or you know I would love to experience her first parkrun with her uh and for those I think I think she'd be a parkrunner she oh okay you think she comes off as the type that would do it yeah Yeah, well, she comes off as the type who'd be probably quite competitive and I'm sure she'd beat me. But that's okay. I'd be all right with that and definitely would love to have post-parkrun breakfast with her and ask her how she enjoyed her first experience.

00:59:58[crosstalk]

01:00:42Scott Trickett: Okay. Do you want to parkrun with Amy Poehler or do you want to parkrun with the character she portrayed in Parks and Recs? Leslie Knope.

01:00:51Melissa Erbacher: Oh, see, it's a very close tie. Leslie Knope is my idol, but Amy Poehler brought her to life. So I think there's a lot to be said. I mean, it's the same with you and Ricky Gervais. Would you like to parkrun with Ricky or would you like to parkrun with, was the guy's name David? David Brent.

01:01:11Scott Trickett: Yeah.

01:01:11Melissa Erbacher: Yeah.

01:01:13Scott Trickett: Yeah, good question. Good question. Look, why don't we reach out? This is our gift to us in episode 200. Yeah, 200.

01:01:25Melissa Erbacher: Ricky and Amy.

01:01:26Scott Trickett: Yeah, let's see.

01:01:27Melissa Erbacher: If you're listening to this.

01:01:29Scott Trickett: If you're listening, get in touch. If not, we're going to come after you. So just answer the email when we send it.

01:01:36Melissa Erbacher: This is your invite to parkrun with us. Yeah. One-time only offer. Yeah. No, but we did get a lot of great, really well thought out replies. Lots of people. I don't know about you, Scotty. I guess given that we've got an adventuresome audience, maybe I was expecting more people to, you know, name their bucket list places, but so many people said, were talking about their home parkruns in their answers they wanted to parkrun at home they just wanted to get back to their home parkrun with their homies and just enjoy the normalcy and the fun and the love that is their every day every weekend parkrun yeah not not a great surprise really Mel you know we are 200 episodes in we are four years is this year five This is the fifth year. Fifth year in. So, yeah, four and a half years technically. Well, we're approaching four and a half years.

01:02:38Scott Trickett: Yeah. So, I think we know the secret of parkrun and it's not really, is it? It's not really the location so much. It can go a fair way towards having an pleasurable, enjoyable morning that if you're running in a beautiful location, whatever. Yeah.

01:02:55Melissa Erbacher: Yeah, adventures can be home or away. So thank you to everybody who chipped in and gave us your replies during the week. It was wonderful reading all of those. And we hope you enjoyed having a bit of a daydream and a think about it as you were going and breaking up the, well, I don't want to assume you've got a monotonous week, but I know what my week's been like, so any little diversion is always welcome.

01:03:20Scott Trickett: Okay, well on that, Mel, how has your week been?

01:03:23Melissa Erbacher: Noisy. Noisy. And busy. But I think it's going to end on a positive note. How about yours, Scotty?

01:03:32Scott Trickett: Same. Same. Noisy for different reasons. Renovations going on at home. So there's lots of banging and drilling and sawing going on.

01:03:41Melissa Erbacher: I have all those noises too.

01:03:44Scott Trickett: What does your bathroom look like?

01:03:47Melissa Erbacher: You don't want to know. My whole house looks like a construction site, but it's under construction by a 10-month-old and almost three-year-old. Work in progress, let's put it that way.

01:03:59Scott Trickett: Well, I've brought in the professionals at least, which is good. I bring parkrunning to all aspects of my life, Mel, because my builder is a parkrunner. I've recruited my tiler.

01:04:11Melissa Erbacher: Okay. Did you vet them before, like you asked them what their athlete ID was before you gave them the job or?

01:04:19Scott Trickett: Oh, no, no, no, no, no. My builder, we go back. We met at parkrun years ago and I only recently found out that he was a builder because he was doing someone else's place. And so he's been kept in business through parkrun. Okay.

01:04:32Melissa Erbacher: And you're like, hey, I've got a bathroom. Yeah.

01:04:35Scott Trickett: And a kitchen. Yeah. So it's great. But I've converted my tiler. So my tiler wants to know. But unfortunately, I've met him since we've been closed. But I've still managed to sell the idea to him. So he's really excited.

01:04:48Melissa Erbacher: Yep.

01:04:50Tracey Wood: Well done.

01:04:51Melissa Erbacher: So you're still actively recruiting.

01:04:53Scott Trickett: Always, 24-7.

01:04:57Melissa Erbacher: Even after this many years, I'm impressed. Very impressed.

01:05:02Scott Trickett: So Mel, by my quick calculations, I was here on episode 194, 197, 200. So I'm coming back once every three weeks, all three episodes. Is that how it's going to work now? Or is this it?

01:05:19Melissa Erbacher: 200 and out. We would love to have you. You're always welcome back. You know that, right?

01:05:25Scott Trickett: I begged to get back on and it took a while. But now that I'm back, I seem to be here every week. So I might take another six months off.

01:05:33Melissa Erbacher: Oh, okay.

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01:05:34Lyndell Murray: Fair enough.

01:05:35Melissa Erbacher: Well, you know what? We might do something a little bit different next week. 200 episodes between the two of us. I'm not sure. I mean, there's always been one or other of us here that whole time. Maybe we need to mix things up a bit.

01:05:49Scott Trickett: Oh, this is exciting. Has there ever been an episode without one of us?

01:05:55Melissa Erbacher: No, there has not.

01:05:56Scott Trickett: Never has there? Wow.

01:06:01Melissa Erbacher: Could be time.

01:06:03Scott Trickett: Oh, you got me excited to listen now. So this is happening, episode 201. Yeah.

01:06:10Melissa Erbacher: Who will it be? Okay. Insert witty, mysterious audio file here. I'll have to find one. Yeah.

01:06:23Scott Trickett: Don't ask me for one.

01:06:24Melissa Erbacher: Thank you for joining me this week, Scotty. It's been fun. It was nice to reminisce with you a little bit and also to have a chat again with Beau.

01:06:33Scott Trickett: Yep. I am looking forward, like I did, I wasn't pumping up his tyres in the interview. I am actually really looking forward to getting Beau on. And, you know, we were chatting about, he wasn't one of those like best guests of all time, but we kind of just said, hey, wouldn't it be great to get Beau back on? And then it just, it was a coincidence that his new movie came out at exactly the same time. Yeah, we've got great timing. Yeah, and it was great to have a chat to him. And see, I tried to convert him to become a parkrunner.

01:07:02Melissa Erbacher: I think you won. I think you did convert him.

01:07:05Scott Trickett: Yeah.

01:07:06Melissa Erbacher: So once again, you know, 24-7 with the recruiting. Good job, you. Can I just say, pump up his tyres. I miss your expressions.

01:07:19Scott Trickett: Do you?

01:07:20Melissa Erbacher: Yes, I do. I really do.

01:07:22Scott Trickett: I wonder what they are. Give me a couple of other ones.

01:07:28Melissa Erbacher: Oh, well, you know. I put you on the spot, haven't I? Peeling back the curtain is a pretty obvious common one.

01:07:35Scott Trickett: Yeah, I don't think, yeah, that's not an original, Scotty.

01:07:38Melissa Erbacher: Oh, okay. I don't think any of them really are. No, well, see, that's the whole point.

01:07:43Scott Trickett: Yeah, no, I pinched them from everywhere. Nothing I do is original.

01:07:47Melissa Erbacher: But you do it so well.

01:07:50Scott Trickett: If you do it with authenticity and conviction, people believe it. Thank you for the tip. Okay. And on that note, let's wrap up.

01:08:02Melissa Erbacher: Episode 200 of the parkrun adventurers podcast.